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Immigration Sophistry

jerry2 Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 6:54 AM
The focus is on border security and that is important, but it is not the only effort which should be expended. As "Why are we over run with illegal immigrants?" We are over run because it benefits the illegal immigrants to break the law and enter the U.S. Stop making it lucrative and your will begin to control the problem: * Deny all federal and state benefits to illegal immigrants. * Deny all illegal immigrants the right to work (as do other nations to their illegal immigrants). * Implement real punishments to anyone who knowingly hires an illegal immigrant. continued...
jerry2 Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 6:58 AM
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For example, if you knowingly hired (or should have known that you hired) an illegal immigrant, you had to spend 30 days in prison for each instance, hiring of illegal immigrants would quickly drop to near zero. Illegal immigrants would soon leave because they would be unable to continue to make a living here. People would stop entering illegally because there would be no incentive to do so.
meowbius Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 9:21 AM
jerry: do you mean the law of the land has to be enforced? Can you please remind me what laws were enforced lately?
Alex_P Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 12:14 PM
meowbius Wrote:
"Can you please remind me what laws were enforced lately?"

Easy - all the unconstitutional restrictions on gun ownership, but only as it concerns law-abiding citizen. Unrestricted access to abortions.
Most laws are meant to stop people from doing something, and to penalize those who disregard those laws. More generally, laws are meant to protect the society from the law breakers.

But our immigration laws are different. Here the whole focus is on the "plight" of those who have broken the laws, and on what can be done to lift the stigma and ease the pressures they feel, so that they can "come out of the shadows" and "normalize" their lives.

Merely using the word "illegal" to describe their breaking the law is considered to be a sign of mean-spiritedness, if not racism....