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Co-Sponsoring Your Success

Jerome49 Wrote: Jul 20, 2012 11:08 AM
Success has a thousand authors; failures have none. If the government is responsible for people's successes aren't they then also requally responsible for people's failures, or is this only a one-way street? Mr. Obama says successful people are not responsible for their success. By implication then, people who fail are not responsible for their own failure. Therefore, it is only right and just that the government take wealth from the successful and redistribute it to the failures. This is Obama's rationbale. Nero promised bread and circuses; Obama promises food stamps and cell phones. They both fiddled around while their empires burned.
Stuart95 Wrote: Jul 20, 2012 11:33 AM
Half the population, including Obama and his groupies, are net consumers. They suffer from having no sense of accomplishment. Modern liberalism is their chosen method to replace their guilt with moral superiority vs. net producers. The force of government is their only tool for furthering that sense of moral superiority because reality based on individual freedom simply will not cooperate. And just about any abuse of the producers can be justified.

"Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves." - T. S. Eliot
mitch121 Wrote: Jul 20, 2012 12:04 PM
"Modern liberalism is their chosen method to replace their guilt with moral superiority vs. net producers."

a self-esteem exercise writ large.
Stan432 Wrote: Jul 20, 2012 1:26 PM
It's going to get worse before it gets better. In our area, government rules to "protect" teenagers has created an environment where businesses don't hire teenagers because of the hassle. To me this is an analog to the problems in society writ large.
Stuart95 Wrote: Jul 20, 2012 2:10 PM
One of the proudest achievements of modern liberalism is, I'm sure, eradication of abusive "child labor". While no one thinks sub-teens should work 80 hours a week in dangerous sweatshops, liberals have so over-reacted that many teenagers now reach adulthood with very little work experience and no concomitant sense of responsibility.

There are at least three obvious causes: (1) steadily hiking the minimum wage makes fewer teenagers worth hiring, (2) the level of welfare support given poor families has damped the incentive to work to help out the family, and (3) work rules have gone from sensible to ridiculous (example: the movement afoot in Congress to prevent teens working on the family farm).
Susanswerphone Wrote: Jul 20, 2012 11:14 AM
Haven't we heard all of our lives, people like Pres. Obama, telling others that their failures are not their own faults? Perhaps he feels he received unearned success. Part of him must be in awe that his schtick has worked and he is where he is and part of him must believe that his failures were never his fault.

"If you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. ... If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

-- Barack Obama

The president's defenders have claimed he either misspoke last week at a Roanoke, Va., campaign event or that what he said is true. Both defenses have merit....