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The Electoral College, Under Attack

Jerome41 Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 12:58 AM
What a bunch of drivel. It's like Davis has been sleeping in a coma for the last 120 years and just awoke. Um, Davis, there are 12 swing states. Most of the nation is getting as much attention from the presidential candidates as Bahrain. And the states the candidates visit to, are by far, larger than the average state. Almost all of the swing states are in the top 15-20 population size. If you adore the Electoral college so much, why don't you want it on the state level? Why not vote for your governor the same way, if it is such a great system? After all, as you point out, a presidential race is not like a local school board race (what with majority will and decision and all), so why not have it on the level of a governor?
scott s. Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 3:20 PM
On the state level for the most part "one man one vote" USSC decision Baker v. Carr (1962) makes that sort of thing impossible.
Lars795 Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 1:27 AM
Because the popular vote isn't the best system, just ask those that live in central NY about all those things that have passed affecting them, but because those living in NYC might get an extra "hotdog" it passes. Popular vote is good for a lot of things, but not when you are relying on something that takes a bit of education, smarts, common sense, and the willingness to do what is right for the country ahead of what you want.
Jerome41 Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 2:03 AM
Yes, you are right, we need a system which fundamentally comes down to Akron and Toledo Ohio in deciding who is the next president. That makes so much more sense.
ThasicAlambra Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 2:22 AM
Larry, by your comment, only people that are informed, intelligent and understand the ramifications of their vote should be allowed to cast a ballot. That would pretty much exempt 90% of the population. Most people just want to live their lives, watch dancing with the stars and drink a brew on Friday night. Let's face it, politics is an obsession for many of us. Everyone else would rather it all be over and done with quickly and painlessly.
gwharpo Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 3:54 AM
ThasicAlambra Wrote: (2:22 AM)
Larry, by your comment, only people that are informed, intelligent and understand the ramifications of their vote should be allowed to cast a ballot.

You are absolutely right. For a foreigner to become a citizen he must pass a test (in English) proving that he has some idea of how America works.
The Constitution does not prohibit requiring a test of intelligence before voting.
Too many morons voting for free cell-phones are the problem with politics and the reason there are so many fools in Congress.
Ms Kelly Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 4:22 PM
I keep hearing it's nearly impossible to get elected POTUS if you can't carry Ohio. So why not dismiss all this election hoopla and just let Ohio decide.
jmonaco Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 4:34 PM
Thasic --

Through ignorance, those avoiding political awareness harm themselves and their communities (whether they realize it or not).

This is how free men begin to sell themselves into slavery.
scrow Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 1:04 AM
Which 12 swing states do you believe are the swing states? And how are you defining swing states?

Part of the reason he likes the electoral college is because it is unique...
Jerome41 Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 1:26 AM
Yeah, it's uniquely stupid.
jmonaco Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 4:27 PM
Jerome --

Oh boo! The Electoral College was a practical means of avoiding the difficulties of a two consul executive branch and prevent a monarchy/dictatorship as the Romans ultimately endured when the ancient Republic collapsed.

Davis is not the one who has been asleep the past 200 years (not just 120). It appears someone never woke up.
Jerome41 Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 12:59 AM
Oh by the way, the electoral college is to a large extent the result of allowing slaves states to enter the union with using a portion of their slaves as population in allowing delegrates for the presidential race. That is where 3/5 of a vote comes in. Interesting you missed that.
Curtis108 Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 6:16 AM
Think you got the cart before the horse.... the electoral college follows the proportions of the house and senate combined.
scott s. Wrote: Nov 02, 2012 3:21 PM
The 3/5ths rule came about in an attempt to measure the relative wealth of states for the purposes of apportioning direct taxes.

As Tuesday’s election ticks ever nearer, my fervent wish is a solid electoral college win for Mitt Romney. Not to get greedy, but I’d like it in the bag before the wee hours of Wednesday morning.

I hope this is not asking too much. October’s poll swing and a broadening visceral sense tell me this election may not feature the nail-biting closeness we have been told to expect for months.

But if we are to be ensnared by a down-to-the-wire finish, get ready for the attendant micro-focus on the Electoral College, and the resulting debate over whether it should...