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BREAKING: GOP Counters WH Offer on Fiscal Cliff, Embraces Bowles-Simpson Variant

jehosefat Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 8:23 PM
This is not an intellectual argument anymore, it's dirty emotional politics. Obama wants nothing more than to crush the GOP in the minds of the public, he really could not less about the fiscal health of the country. Trying to act like intelligent adults will only play into Obama's strategy. I say, give him the dang tax hikes and let the American people take it out on him.
byeBarry Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 8:33 PM
The hussein hates America, simple as that!
Bruce2397 Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 9:34 PM
Someday maybe we'll understand what's behind this stupid "Obama hates America" trope that you guys keep peddling. Breathing your own exhaust---or is it "birthing" your own exhaust?
MudontheTires Wrote: Dec 04, 2012 12:56 AM
"Someday maybe we'll understand what's behind this stupid "Obama hates America" trope that you guys keep peddling."

If you don't understand it now Bruce, you likely never will. Just rememeber what Obama himself said, "The Purpose of My Administration is to Fundamentally Change America".
Chestertonfan Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 8:30 PM
This is FDR redux. A good read is "New Deal or Raw Deal" by Folsom. Many of the tactics by FDR and his thugs are being replicated by "O", Axelgrease, Jarrett, et al. Similarities are striking. All about power and the move toward socialism or worse.
Gordon110 Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 8:28 PM
This has never been an intellectual argument. Anyone with more than one synapse firing knows taxing the rich will only pay for about 5 days of government expense. Any argument after that point is political theater on the part of the administration. This is all Obama knows, set up straw men, put the blame on them, make the public furious at the straw man, then look like the reasonable peacemaker after successfully demonizing your opponent.
Bruce2397 Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 9:24 PM
Anyone with more than one synapse firing---and who's not interested in misleading others--knows that Obama and the others who favoring raising rates on the top 2% knows that won't cover all of it, and that's not all they're proposing. We know the difference, even if you don't.

Well, this move by Speaker Boehner doesn't exactly follow my Simpson-Bowles playbook to a tee -- but Erskine Bowles does make an appearance, and Republicans are going on (realistic, reasonable) offense.  In a new letter addressed to the president, House Republican leaders firmly reject the president's non-starter "proposal," pointedly decline to counter with an equally unrealistic wish list, and offer an alternative bipartisan solution: