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Two Americas

Jeffrey286 Wrote: Aug 22, 2013 2:25 AM
I wish Obama would play more Spades. The Country would be a whole lot better off if he did.
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Rebirth of AQ

Jeffrey286 Wrote: Aug 14, 2013 3:32 AM
It says the same thing in the Bible. That's what led to the Crusades. Christians learned better. They grew, they adapted. They learned to live with others of different color, of a different religion. It's time for the Muslim to grow. To accept the world has changed since the 7th century.
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Rebirth of AQ

Jeffrey286 Wrote: Aug 13, 2013 4:43 AM
And yes, I know my idea is radical and probably, to some extreme and maybe even sounds racist Before you insult my plan though.... Can you come up with a better one? Can you tell us, in short, succinct sentences what it is, exactly that the Muslims want, what can we do or give them to make them stop the terrorism? If you can't even explain that part, how do you expect to come to terms with them? If you don't know them, if you don't understand them, how are you going to negotiate with them? As long as they have the support of the people, their god and their governments, why would they stop???
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Rebirth of AQ

Jeffrey286 Wrote: Aug 13, 2013 4:31 AM
The only way to end the war is to admit first, that we don't have a "Radical Islam" problem. We have an "Islam" problem. It's not just the radicals we have to change. It's the governments that are aiding and funding them, it's the charities who raise money for them, it's the Islamic Schools, madrases, that turn Muslim into radicals, they recruit and begin their training into terrorists and it's the people of the Middle East and N. Africa who continue to support the terrorists. We have to find a way to force a truly Islamic come-to-God moment. We have to make them, all of them, see that they are living in the past. That the only thing supporting terrorists will get them, is more war, more death, more poverty, more hunger, more disease and eventually annihilation. I'm sure right now, the Muslim over in the Middle East and Africa believe they're perfectly safe, the mothers in Lebanon and Pakistan and Morocco don't think this war will ever touch them or their children. They have NO REASON at all to turn on the clerics who are preaching this form of Radical Jihadist Islam. Three steps I can think of RIGHT now that would give them pause, not the terrorists necessarily but the governments and people who support them. 1) Stop the flow of money leaving the US and flowing into the Middle East to purchase oil. We should immediately become as energy independent as possible by allowing, or even giving encouraging companies to drill in the US and off shore, open new processing plants in the US and keep one out of every ten barrels pumped in the US, In the US. Think of it as an export tax on the other 90% of their oil. 2) Stop allowing Muslims into the United States. For any reason except diplomats. I'm not calling for the imprisonment or deportation of Muslims already here but we should not continue to allow them to pour into the country. And 3) Put every middle eastern and N. African country on notice that if the US is attacked, we will not just go after the organization that planned the attack, but also the nations and governments who aided and supported them. In other words if the terrorists were born and bred, recruited and trained in Yemen, we know where to go. Put a few drones in the air and destroy a few important military and/or political targets. I never want to see people on the streets celebrating the death of Americans at the hands of Islamic terrorists like we did after 9/11/01.
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After Obama

Jeffrey286 Wrote: Apr 04, 2013 1:19 AM
Have Faith. Be Optimistic. Trust.
Republicans might as well support a path to citizenship. Logic tells us that there is no way to send 11 million Hispanics back south. Even with Obama destroying the economy the way he is, not all of them will leave. They should agree to a path to citizenship.... Once the border is secured. When we are CERTAIN we won't end up with this same exact problem in another 10 or 20 years. We did this once before under Reagan, we should learn our lessons and learn from history.
And twenty years ago, even Bill Clinton didn't think gay marriage would happen. This is the United States of America. Possibly, the most litigious society in the history of the world. You don't need large groups to sue. One person suing one church and going all the way to the Supreme Court is all it would take.
Yep. Nine states, the District of Columbia and three Indian Reservations have decided that gay people deserve special privileges. Doesn't mean I agree with them. Of course, I'm also not a supporter of affirmative action or hate crime legislation, and strangely, it's for exactly the same reasons.
The point isn't whether a straight man would marry another straight man. The question isn't whether a gay man would marry a woman. The answers to those are obvious. It is a question of RIGHTS though. And, at this time, when it comes to marriage, gay people have all of the same rights as a straight person. You need to argue logic or law, not emotions.
And you didn't respond to the question. Why should homosexuals have special rights? And if homosexuals get special rights, why shouldn't the polygamists? The pedophiles? The guy who wants to marry his car? It's an old argument, but I don't see you making a good, logical counter argument. You keep arguing emotions.
I said in my first post that I believe gay couples should have all of the same rights as a straight couple. Go read it. Just scroll up a few inches. It's right there. I think a gay couple should be able to qualify for the family plan at the gym, they should be able to collect Social Security, they should have medical power of attorney. Those I agree with. Heterosexuals do NOT, however, have the right to marry someone of the same sex. Why should homosexuals? Your argument will be "Why would a straight person want to marry someone of the same sex?" and you're right, they wouldn't. But they still don't have the right and THAT is the point.
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