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Why Do Democrats Hate American Manufacturers?

Jeff2422 Wrote: Feb 22, 2013 12:14 PM
Actually, today's conservatives would find themselves in agreement with a lot of the early positions of progressives. I would doubt most conservatives would argue against banning children from factories or having no inspections of food. The major concerns of most conservatives are public policy that breaks down the nuclear family, deficit spending, and the 80 year road to administrative despotism (i.e. the EPA who recently argued they were immune from judicial oversight). Ultimately, the problem comes down to freedom (or right) does not mean license. With freedom/rights comes responsibilty. The Conservative believes that one can exercise his individual freedom as long as it does not harm others. (cont)
goldilocks Wrote: Feb 23, 2013 9:43 AM
goldilocks Wrote: Feb 23, 2013 9:42 AM
J, Do conservatives believe individual freedom

is a license

for evil and immoral behavior?
Cappmann Wrote: Feb 22, 2013 12:54 PM
Well said Jeff. And note the rapier wit of agitator's rebuttal... And they wonder why they get slammed...
Jeff2422 Wrote: Feb 22, 2013 12:31 PM
unfettered. Liberals essentially take the idea of the necessitous man to its extreme. Thus, most conservatives are really old-time Progressives. That includes social conservatives because the original Progressives believed in God and believed that in order for a democratic republic to surive the populace must have a common moral compass based on traditional family and a serious work ethic combined with a sense of sacrafice for future generations. Liberals believe in none of this, it is "do your own thing" and "after me the deluge."
Jeff2422 Wrote: Feb 22, 2013 12:20 PM
Also, that the government is not to make one group of people pay for another person or group of persons exercise of their freeedom/right. This is where the true Conservatives and Progressives part company. Progressives believe in the "necesitous man" theory. Simply, this means that the average person lives a necesitous life and so his guaranteed rights from the Constitution are not of much use if they don't have the means to exercise them. Thus, the Progressive believes the government "must" make sure each person can exercise their freedom/rights. Of course, this takes money and a large government apparatus to administer and control the average person. The Progressives understood that the exercise of rights, however, could not be (cont)
Here's the latest example of head-splitting cognitive dissonance in Washington: President Obama used his State of the Union address to crusade for a revitalized U.S. manufacturing sector. But while he pays lip service to supporting businesses that build their products on American soil, Obama and his left-wing operatives are hell-bent on driving a key sector of the U.S. manufacturing industry six feet under: the American firearms and ammunition industry.

The White House is pushing new government spending to "spur economic growth," protect manufacturing plants and "create good-paying jobs" to help America's middle class. Yet across the country, with aggressive lobbying by the...