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Legitimate Rape Arguments

jazzmanJim Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 10:24 AM
Jay Wye Wrote: 3 minutes ago (10:16 AM) I believe that once a baby is born,it's then a person with all rights. why "one-year+one day AFTER birth"? is that for cognitive functioning to really begin? I disagree. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Why is birth the defining point? It's your belief without any stated reason. If a c-section is performed at eight-months what makes that the 'majical' begining?
Jay Wye Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 10:57 AM
birth is when the fetus is SEPARATED from the woman.
it then becomes a separate entity,with all the rights that implies.

as others have mentioned it's near impossible to determine exactly when a fetus develops a soul or "personage",when it's developed cognition.
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 10:26 AM
In formal logic there are two types of difference, "essential differences" which are differences in kind -- pertaining to the nature of a thing -- and "accidental differences" which are non-essential differences -- that have no effect on the nature of a thing.*

Human or not human is an essential difference. It speaks to the nature of things.

Born or unborn is an accidental difference -- merely describing the human child's location rather than any change in its nature.


*Differences in degree being a subset of accidental differences. The position of a given human being on the continuum from conception to natural death at advanced age might be considered a difference of degree.
jazzmanJim Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 10:29 AM
Exactly. A point we need to keep making to pro-aborts.
Jay Wye Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 10:58 AM
sorry,but an embryo is not a "child". at some point,a fetus develops into a child,but it's not at conception.
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