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Akin's Idiocy is Infectious

jazzmanJim Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 10:12 AM
supercarp Wrote: 24 minutes ago (9:45 AM) The fallacy of this statement is that there is no child being attacked. A blastula may (or may not) become a child if everything goes well. Deciding to call a group of nonsentient cells a child is a nonscientific choice. An abortion performed early in a pregnancy does not destroy a child. You can't destroy what has not been made. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= So when specifically does a unique human life begin?
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 10:45 AM
Supercarp is dead wrong.

The science of embryology and human development is quite clear. From the moment sperm meets egg a new, unique, individual human being with its own, unique genetic code comes into being.

It never "becomes human" because it is already human from the very first moment.

And, being human, it has the full complement of human rights -- first and foremost among them being the right to life.

This is not a religious belief but a scientific fact. There is no point in development where a thing which might be human but might be a cockatiel, a cocker spaniel, or a coffee bush transitions to a definite human. We are 100% human from conception through natural death at advanced age.
John5840 Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 11:08 AM
This is fundamentally untrue. Being a PERSON carries with it much more than genetic material. Its one thing to point this out as a belief, but it is absolutely not a fact.
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:01 PM
There is no separation between "personhood" and humanity.

All human beings are persons. We are human from the moment of conception and thus we are persons from first conception.

To declare that some human beings are, somehow, not actually human is to declare that rights are not inherent to humanity but conditional based how human someone may or may not be.

There is a long and bloody history to show us what happens when a society decides that some human beings aren't fully human.
rickmcq Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 10:39 AM
It begins at conception, as it will develop into a born child unless something interferes.

Todd Akin's idiocy appears to be infectious.

The evil genius of the Missouri congressman's comments is that they lend themselves to such broad interpretations -- and misinterpretations.

By now his remarks are familiar, but just in case ...

Akin told a local TV interviewer: "First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare." He continued: "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."

My own take is that there's a dual-core of asininity here. First, Akin's formulation makes it sound...