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Is It Ever OK To Spank?

Jan@Oasis Wrote: Sep 23, 2014 8:30 PM
Yes, it is always good to teach kids not to be violent and aggressive by being violent and aggressive with them. Makes perfect sense. But no, there is no difference. Hitting kids is always wrong, and all the justification in the world cannot change that. There are so many more effective and non-violent means to produce lovely children who are responsible and loving adults. And why this has ANYTHING to do with the subject I do not know, but I have been married 46 years to the same man and raised three lovely and loving children who are responsibly raising my seven lovely and loving grandchildren, and NOT ONE OF US ever hit any child. I had my very effective ways of making sure the kids knew what they could and could not do. While they made some mistakes, they learned lessons absent a violent response of any sort. I guess I must be some sort of magician, to have accomplished such a thing.
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Is It Ever OK To Spank?

Jan@Oasis Wrote: Sep 23, 2014 8:22 PM
It would take a mighty cold blooded person to calmly and without anger deliberately inflict pain and humiliation on his or her own child. Chilling. You can play semantics all you want, but hitting is hitting and the reason people are beating their kids is because you apologists are always saying how it's okay to spank. That of course is interpreted as it's okay to HIT. And it does not, not NOT teach anything but that you are a bully.
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Is It Ever OK To Spank?

Jan@Oasis Wrote: Sep 23, 2014 8:15 PM
You are wrong. ANY violence, no matter what you call it, causes humiliation, resentment and anger. NO study that I have read concludes that spanking is either effective or harmless. It is just you having no real parenting skills and not bothering to learn any. It's easier, if you are a lazy parent, to just whack 'em. As I said, no imagination.
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Is It Ever OK To Spank?

Jan@Oasis Wrote: Sep 23, 2014 8:12 PM
Nonsense. They have raised people who think it is reasonable to hit children, when if they did the same to anyone else they'd be arrested and land in jail.
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Is It Ever OK To Spank?

Jan@Oasis Wrote: Sep 23, 2014 8:10 PM
In a word, no, spanking is never okay. Peterson thinks he turned out well because he was whacked? He's fathered ten kids from who knows how many women and beats his children with sticks. Yeah, he turned out swell. Someone mentioned Piaget. It's been a long, long time since he was spouting his theories. Surely we have evolved somewhat since then. Studies do show that spanking induces anger, sneakiness, lying, resentment and sometimes, when the kid is big enough, retaliation. You can go visit any prison in the world, and you will find that all violent offenders were "spanked" as kids. It is disgusting to use the hands that are supposed to soothe and comfort a child to hurt them instead. And seriously, do you people not have ANY imagination? Time out? There are myriad ways to effectively discipline kids without using that anemic approach. But you must start early and you must decide the day your child is born to use proper TEACHING methods, which is what discipline means, and never to touch your child with any touch but love. Grow up and be adults. Anybody can hit defenseless kids. But that just makes you a big ol' bully.
Spot on, Anonymous, the most anemic response to this atrocity imaginable. AND, he is lying (again)--we know that the Koran calls for the murder of ALL infidels-- men, women and children--who refuse to convert to their psychopathological sickness. NO SURPRISE, not will it be a surprise when he does NOTHING about it, and nothing to save Steven Sotloff's life. God help him, and God rest James Foley.
Is he delusional?? The Koran CALLS for, DEMANDS the killing of infidels (anyone--man, woman or child) who do not knuckle under to the order to convert to islam. What is Obama going to do to save the life of the next man they are threatening to kill?
People hear about Nazi Germany and their unbelievable depravity, especially when it came to innocents. But look at Odumbo. He's all for letting babies die in pain if they survive an abortion. Is it such a stretch to see him comfortable with killing/letting die babies who are "less than" ? I'll answer my own question. No, not a stretch at all. I have a grandson who would be considered less than by the disgusting vermin on the left and the Vermin in Chief. Come over here and try it, Vermin. Easy to pick on defenseless babies, but if you have to take on a protective parent or grandparent you might not be so mouthy and "proud" of your support of torture and murder.
Yep, I do believe Marsha Blackburn brought the picture of the ultrasound to demonstrate that it's a B A B Y in there, doing his baby thing, waiting to be born and live the life God gave him. Just like all other babies. The picture certainly makes that clear, except maybe to idiots.
God DAMN you--I pray He does damn you straight to the waiting arms of your mentor, Satan himself. With Obama leading the way.
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