One must read US history to understand that the definition of such words as "liberal", "democrat", etc. have changed over time. Heck, in my short lifetime ( 75 years ) the meaning of many words have changed. "Gay" once meant some thing different than what is assumed today. Also "gross" meant meant 144 of something, now it means something altogether different. While Tom Jefferson wasn't perfect, he was far better "Liberal Democrat" than the current crop of "Democrats" At least that's my opinion, to which I'm entitled!!

As I understand history, the Dems pushed for an income tax ( late 1800's) but the Repubs, after resisting it for some time, decided to "kill the idea once and for all" by passing the 16th Amendment, believing that the states would "NEVER" ratify it. BUT THEY DID. So much for things coming out as one expects them to.

Remember, only Dems voted for this mess. The elephants couldn't stop it because the American people put the jackasses "in charge" with BHO as their leader. Now we all suffer the results. All that I suspected at the time.

Carlos, Don't hold your breath. The MSM is also infiltrated with a lot of Not Me's too!

I've been calling the IRS the Financial Gestopo of the U.S. for years. I've been audited once but won the battle. I wonder now, was it because I vote conservative?

Right On Frank and Hawker. I've spoken with John Linder and Neal Bortz, the authors of both of the original Fair Tax books. Also have attended several rallys where they and Herman Cain have advocated the Fair Tax. It may not be perfect in every way but it puts the power back in the hands of the people and does away with the IRS. Both good things!

A veteran has called for an armed march on Washington D.C. on July 4, 2013. The plan is for non-violence, but maybe they can act as the protectors and enforcers for that Special and Independent Counsel.Last I heard he has 1400 who have commited to be there. The one worry about this is that it may give BHO a reason to delare Martial Law and turn loose his Civial Army!

On the face of it, it seems odd that while silver is supposedly in short supply that the price is going down. That seems to defy the "supply and demand" rule. Could it be that something else is going on. Maybe someone is selling off "paper silver" but are then accumulating actual silver, or some such process. Maybe the "big boys" are shearing the sheep again for a nice profit in the "down market" and will buy back to once again drive the price back up. It's been done before!

I would ask, what did we do before the 1940's and the introduction of the employer provided health insurance? I sure don't know all the answers obviously. Who does? See my previous comments for some suggestions. What we have now is a mess and ObamaCare will only be worse I fear! Perhaps a free market growing economy with more folks working and able to pay their doctors directly for the more mundane illnesses and carry catastrophic coverage. Let's try something in that direction. Keep the Government out of it as much as possible.

Gentlemen, I'm not completely opposed to having insurance companies involved in the medical industry. I belive the emphisis could be more toward catastophic coverage, competative insurance across state lines and the ability to select the coverage one needs. My comment about the cost of insurance in the medical field was referring to the total cost of insurance company involvement, not their profit margins. Of course, having politicians, bureaucrats and governments at any level will only increase cost and reduce choices by individuals people. I really enjoy this discussion and your thoughts.