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James2517 Wrote: Sep 25, 2012 7:45 AM
"This will set the stage for more and more children to grow up without a mother or a father, simply to placate the desire of adults." How on earth is this so? People who are not married can be parents. Married couples are not required to be parents. What Harry really opposes is the existence of gay people. Be honest Harry. And while you are at it, long at the state of marriage and child rearing in your own community. More black children conceived by heterosexual black parents are raised by only one parent (or none at all) than are raised by 2 parents. Gay people, black or white, are not responsible for this. So stop your hating and focus on improving your own house.
DCM in FL Wrote: Sep 25, 2012 7:57 AM
The existence of gay people is worth opposing. A person does not end up sexually attracted to the wrong gender unless something has seriously gone wrong. The lives of the many people who have stopped living as "gay" demonstrate this. (I know I'm supposed to pretend they don't exist, but, sorry. I'm interested in reality.)
James2517 Wrote: Sep 25, 2012 8:03 AM
Well then I suggest you consider residence in the likes if Iran. There is strong opposition to the existence of homosexuality there. In the USA, we are a bit more enlightened. We realize that people are born gay and are entitled to live their lives just as anyone else born in this great land of ours. God Bless America.
Beethovens10th Wrote: Sep 25, 2012 8:26 AM
Pretty soon, James will be "enlightened" enough to champion man-on-boy sex. It's just a matter of time, isn't it, James.
Rondoman Wrote: Sep 25, 2012 8:44 AM
I am sorry, but homosexuality would naturally breed itself out in one generation for lack of copulation. The reason for homosexuality in males is that there is no loving father or father figure present during the puberty years to properly direct the change in life. It is referred to in the Bible as "enemies in the gate." Psalm127:5 A formerly homosexual friend of mine became a Christian and was led out of that degenerate path. Notice that I said "friend." I did not hate him; I helped him. He referred to himself as "gay," but that was just a cover-up for his real misery. Male brutality can create lesbianism because women have nowhere to turn. Oh, and Sodom and Gomorrah were real.
DCM in FL Wrote: Sep 25, 2012 8:53 AM
"people are born gay"

As they say, if your starting assumptions are wrong, your conclusions aren't going to be very good.

You can say "people are born gay" until you're blue in the face, but it will not magically become true in the life of one "gay" person.

You also demonstrate that you've neither thoroughly read nor tried to understand my post. "Opposition to the existence of homosexuality" has nothing to do with how Iran addresses it, and everything to do with encouraging and enabling people to get out of an unnatural lifestyle when they realize they need to.
Beethovens10th Wrote: Sep 25, 2012 8:57 AM
People are also "born pedophiles, " then. Who are you to oppose "who they are."
James2517 Wrote: Sep 25, 2012 9:01 AM
You can say "People chose homosexuality" until you are blue in the face. It does not make it fact.
mulbery Wrote: Sep 25, 2012 9:07 AM
Oh well I'm so glad you can explain why I'm gay and I'm soooo glad that your Bible has such great insight into my life. But just don't tell my lifelong best friend. Because he's my dad.
Beethovens10th Wrote: Sep 25, 2012 9:09 AM
Are you saying that people CANNOT choose not to have sex?
Reginald10 Wrote: Sep 25, 2012 10:05 AM
Why do you assume that there is only one "cause" of homosexuality, any more than there is one cause of cancer? IMHO, one might be born gay, achieve gayness, or have gayness thrust upon them. Many honest gays insist that they were "born that way". I remember the Feminist Movement encouraging Lesbianism as a way to "liberate" yourself from /men/. And many same-sex child molesters were themselves molested in that way as children.

I say the first group deserves understanding, the second contempt, and the third correction and/or treatment. And the three groups are not to be confused - they aren't the same.
Larue4 Wrote: Sep 25, 2012 11:05 AM
People are NOT born gay and you know it. You can WISH they were born that way, but all credible studies to date show they ARE NOT. Maybe in a hundred years we will have more proof that it is either/or but most literature shows it to be as much enviroment as it is hereditary.
du2 Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 1:18 PM
Beethoven is another example of defamation and perversion of another person's opinion. James didn't say that. YOU did, B. and you don't get to do that, and call yourself the one with the morality to do it. Go by the facts, and if they don't present themselves, then you obviously don't have such evidence. No one here who supports equality has EVER supported the abuse of children. Not ever. So don't try claiming it happened or will. THAT makes YOU a liar.
du2 Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 1:21 PM
Wow. That Kool-Aid isn't flying off the shelf fast enough. You must be that weak to believe something SO stupid. Homosexuality is a spontaneous act of nature THE SAME as heterosexuality. It's simply less common. It doesn't render a person anti social, or incompetent in any other area. You wouldn't necessarily know a gay person at face value, so judging them harshly that way isn't right, nor gets at the facts. And the coercive and threatening environment against gay people makes you claim of a 'former', gay person an empty one. Duress renders anything without merit. That's why information or changes under duress are not considered truthful or rightful evidence in courts.
du2 Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 1:25 PM
Your first sentence describes YOU, DCM. Archaic assumptions about homosexuality with clues taken from ancient cultures means the conclusions will be wrong. Ancient cultures were wrong about a LOT of things. Homosexuality is universal to ALL human life and history. ALL of it, without exception anywhere. THAT is proof enough that it's a spontaneously biological aspect of sexuality. It's not acquired, like religion. One cannot be TAUGHT how to HAVE an orientation or change it. Think what it would take to change YOURS and your answer is right there. So much selfish assumptions and prejudices here, it's insane. Seriously.
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