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Incest and Pedophilia, the New Frontier

jaist Wrote: Sep 14, 2012 11:37 AM
The link between homosexuality and pedophilia is a well-documented and established fact. One study of 229 convicted child molesters found that 86% of them described themselves as either homosexual or bisexual! Homosexual or bisexual men, as a group, are about 10 times more likely to molest children than are heterosexual men. There is also an organized sub-culture of the homosexual “community” that openly preys on boys and claims that they are doing their victims a favor by having sex with them, the North American Man/Boy Love Association. Adult-youth sex is viewed as an important aspect of gay culture. See more at
Undoctrinator Wrote: Sep 14, 2012 12:48 PM
No, jaist, it is not a "well-documented and established fact." It is widely believed, particularly in evangelical and other religious circles, and largely on the basis of a "study" by Paul Cameron. It's usually the only study such folks cite. Or they cite derivatives that primarily cite to his work.

His study is actually widely criticized for having "so many methodological flaws as to be virtually meaningless." That from a UC Davis analysis. If you only credit studies by folks - like Cameron or the Family Research Center, et al - who design studies to prove a preconceived notion, then studies conducted outside of the religious community will be of no interest to you. But, for the sake of offering a contrary view: http://psychology.ucdavis
Undoctrinator Wrote: Sep 14, 2012 12:51 PM
In any case, the vast majority of those identified as child molesters are males who preyed on females. Now THAT is a well-documented and well-established fact. To follow the logic of this thread, that means that heterosexuals, too, are prone to child molestation.

The truth is, child molestation is not a determined by sexual orientation, but rather from having been victimized - often by molestation - at a young age.
Bill1895 Wrote: Sep 14, 2012 12:55 PM
Unodoc, back from checking the young children?

Or were you defacing Mormon and African American Churches for supporting the American Family?
Undoctrinator Wrote: Sep 14, 2012 1:28 PM
Good Christian, you are Bill.
Anominus Wrote: Sep 14, 2012 2:31 PM
As the vast majority of humans are heterosexual, it would make sense that the vast majority of pedophiles are also heterosexual. Considering homosexuals only represent between 3-5% of the total population, they should only constitute a similarly small portion of the pedophiles. However, between 9-40% of pedophiles prefer children of their own sex (ie. homosexual), according to Dr. Richard Hall of the Mayo Clinic, which equates to anywhere from 12 to 50% of homosexuals being pedophiles.
WodenofAzgard Wrote: Sep 14, 2012 10:28 PM
9-40%? 12-50%? Those kinds of ranges suggest sloppy research.
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