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Why We Were Surprised on November 6th?

Jack2894 Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 1:27 PM
I will be glad to provide the history lesson at any time. In the 1950's, that was the situation. However, Beginning with the Dixiecrats and continuing on to the Southern Strategy of Richard Nixon, the parties experienced a polar shift. Democrats became the party of civil rights progress and Republicans became the home of what racists were left. In fact, unless the Republican party comes to terms with this reality, your chances of winning the presidency are nil, barring a catastrophe of some sort.
Roy323 Wrote: Nov 13, 2012 1:18 AM
"works for me" Jack-I've never used these words to any TH poster before-You really ought to see if you can get "spell-check" to "work for U!
rocketmanron Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 5:11 PM
And wasn't it the Republicans who passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964???
togubin Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 4:23 PM
The democrat party is now, as it always has been, the party of racists.

They've simply switched which race they support.
Jack2894 Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 4:04 PM
The history is only questionable if you don't know anything about it. I do notice that you continue to deny my claim but have marshaled no argument to counter it. The racism of the REpublcian party if pretty evident, but whether you believe me or not is irrelevant. COntinue to pretend it isn't an issue, and you will lose the next 5 presidential elections. Works for me.
DCM in FL Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 3:44 PM
""As a Dem he was treated as a Black man; as a Repub he has been treated like a man."

Jack, et al: There's a very good reason that someone could say something like the above. That reason is that it reflects reality. Repeated accusations of widespread "Republican racism" and questionable "history" don't change that reality.
Jack2894 Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 2:56 PM
WHoooa, I beg to differ. In fact, if you can find a bigger example of pitting one group agaisnt another than Mitt Romney's 47% comments, I would like to see it. It was REpublicans who setled on makers vs takers
Jack2894 Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 2:53 PM
DCM, lets go back to teh history part. Have you come to terms with that yet?

And when you have a sec, you may want to consider that while you in your pathetic shroud of white angst might think Democrats are racist, the Hispanic, Latino, Black, Asian and Native populations do not see it your way. Maybe, just maybe, you aren't right about this.
DCM in FL Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 2:29 PM
"Dems make much of differences, pitting one group against another. Republicans don't."

And that answers pretty much all the "racist Republican" fictions right there.
DCM in FL Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 2:28 PM
"You really think the white racists down in the South are voting democratic?"
I don't know how many white racists are left in the South, but I do know the black racists voted Democrat.

"Reality check: conservatives always have been, and always will be, the party of racists."
That's right, keep saying it and maybe it will magically become true.

P.S.: If you have to call someone you disagree with a "f*kin retard," you've already lost the argument.
Emilie3 Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 2:26 PM
Agreed. All the Republicans I know have said they hate blacks, paint them and other minorities with the same brush _ "they are all on welfare"---they especially hate Obama and refuse to believe he is American just because of his name and the fact that he once lived in Indonesia from age 6 to 10.
Emilie3 Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 2:23 PM
oh, why is it that Rush Limbaugh and O'Reilly speak so much to the fear that whites have of becoming a minority? They just dissolve at the thought that they will no longer be superior in numbers and influence.
Emilie3 Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 2:21 PM
Exactly. Desegregation caused Dixiecrat racists to seek another party. Dixiecrats for for "the little guy", but not if he was black.
PhdisReality Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 2:16 PM
"Interesting "history lesson," but it doesn't line up with the current realities of where racism is to be found."

You, sir, are a f'kin retard. You really think the white racists down in the South are voting democratic?

Reality check: conservatives always have been, and always will be, the party of racists.
Earl29 Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 2:10 PM
Dems make much of differences, pitting one group against another. Republicans don't.
Jack2894 Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 2:04 PM
You didn't mention any current realities. If you are willing to admit that you have your history completely wrong,then we can advance to the present.
DCM in FL Wrote: Nov 12, 2012 1:47 PM
Interesting "history lesson," but it doesn't line up with the current realities of where racism is to be found.

Ok, I was wrong. I thought the Republicans would win the Presidency. I was not the only one. Smart people like Michael Barone and Karl Rove thought so also, in addition to people like Dick Morris. A knowledgeable friend called me the Saturday before the election and told me John McLaughlin, the pollster, just told him Romney wins it going away. So what happened?

First there is the big picture. I think there were three issues that hurt the Romney campaign along the way. The first is his turn to the right to win the primaries. My now politically-astute son asserted...