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The Ugly Youth -- I mean Truth -- About the Romney Campaign

Jack2894 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 10:20 AM
I will give Bigelow props for bringing the youth vote to the table, even if she doesn't really understand what happened. Some factors to consider: We do not have, all of a sudden, a lot of new Hispanic voters aged 65. The growth in the Hispanic/Latino vote is ALL in the youth vote. Thus, supporting the Dream Act was a no brainer! The primary impact would have been on Hispanic youth...but Republicans rejected it and Romney promised a veto if it were ever passed. Bye-Bye Hispanic youth vote.
Andy372 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 1:16 PM
Jackie, Jackie, Jackie. Hispanic voters were polled, and are overwhelmingly liberal on their fiscal positions. The Nightmare Act, or any other amnesty program, will not change that. Now, had the GOP or Romney articulated a clear vision of how immigration should work (like how it worked well pre-1965 Kennedy Immigration Bill), where there are relatively minimal work requirements and no chain migration... That wins hearts and minds. Have a plan.
Jack2894 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 1:50 PM
You are missing the point, as usual. This is about young people, folks I work with every day. The Dream Act was a symbol of how the right wing looked at the concerns of hispanic youth. Before you plan on how to make things better for yourselves, you should find a way to keep them from getting worse.
Jack2894 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 10:23 AM
Young people like sex. The whining about birth control on the right, especially calling Sandra Fluke a s*ut, alienated a huge portion of the young. They don't need free BC (that is YOUR fantasy about teh issue) but they don't want laws that will make BC pills illegal, take emergency contraception off the table, or eliminate a last resort option like abortion.
Jack2894 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 10:26 AM
And finally, young people grew up in an economic bubble. THings were great all thier lives. Then they saw their family homes foreclosed by big banks. They saw their parents jobs shipped to China to enhance profits for the 1%. They saw families lose every thing and heard Republicans call their parents irresponsible takers.



Andy372 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 1:18 PM
Duh. There was no whining, and the young people I talk to were the ones laughingly calling Fluke a $lut. No one except liberals putting up straw men were talking about making BC illegal, or abortifacients, or eliminating abortion. NO ONE. A few conservatives were talking about not implementing the Obamacare mandates to force people of conscience to pay for abortions and abortifacients.
Andy372 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 1:19 PM
Man, are you in a bubble. Try listening to something outside your bubble once in a while. You are a little talking point machine.
Jack2894 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 1:47 PM
ANdy, this is just factually incorrect.

A) I think you missed the point of the article: if young people thought the Republican message was so positive, why did ROmney get crushed in that demographic?
B) Efforts to pass " life at conception" legislation were in evidence. One sponsored by Paul Ryan. Mitt ROmney agreed with the concept. That is not a straw man: that is real legislation.

You are in utter denial.
Shoppin Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 2:52 PM
WHO WON THE ELECTION, GENIUS??? Who got the youth vote??? Can you get your head out of your toosh?
upwithRomney Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 6:37 PM
upwithRomney Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 6:38 PM
not true but if you wont admitt to what really happened, we will never win.
upwithRomney Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 6:38 PM
not true but if you wont admitt to what really happened, we will never win.
upwithRomney Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 6:38 PM
not true but if you wont admitt to what really happened, we will never win.
upwithRomney Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 6:38 PM
not true but if you wont admitt to what really happened, we will never win.
Mark1369 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 12:08 AM
Andy they won't listen to you as they have an agenda to push. I know young people don't really want these issues to be part of running the country. They want to know that the gov't will stay out of their lives, create a strong business environment so they can find good jobs, and they want us to get out of foreign entanglements so they are pulled into a war they don't care about.

Is it just me, or does a candidate actually have to reach out to constituents in order to win elections?

Seems like a foreign concept to Mitt Romney.

In a phone call with supporters, Mitt Romney blamed his loss on Obama buying the support of key demographics--like young Americans--with political “gifts”:

“In each case they were very generous in what they gave to those groups...With regards to the young people, for instance, a forgiveness of college loan interest, was a big gift. Free contraceptives were very big with young college-aged women. And then, finally, Obamacare also made a...
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