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Social Conservatives: GOP Can't Live Without Them

Jack2894 Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 3:55 PM
That ignores a critical piece of information, i.e. that these candidates were not just conservative, but absurd. Considered as part of a trend, the far far right wack jobs do appear to have an effect on branding. Ignore it as your risk.
rhough Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 5:20 PM
You know, having godly values and expecting to make lots of friends or win elections doesn't necessarily work out as we would like. But then again, to the One that matters, you have a friend for life. "Who are my brothers, sisters and mother? Those who do the will of my Father in heaven." Jesus in Matt 12: 46-50
mulbery Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 5:09 PM
On the contrary, there weren't many swing voters required to lose the Presidential election. And I know plenty of centrist people, especially women, who said that was the last straw. These people are associated with the Republican party and many believe that they are what you'd get under a Republicna President. Not necessarily int he white house, but hey, get a dirty dog close enough to my food and I'll be afraid to eat it.
Jack2894 Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 4:21 PM
No, but they DO pay attention to data.
Jack2894 Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 4:21 PM
I doubt there are many who would point to that moment and say "Akin sent me scurrying to the Democrats" That's why I characterized it as a branding issue: branding is a complex phenomenon that generally can't be attributed to a single factor. THis is why commerical entities are so concerned with their brand image.
Seljo Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 4:08 PM
good point. Do the Dems listen to Republicans or conservatives about their base or campaign strategies?

Troglodite Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 4:00 PM
OK, being conservative AND getting oneself seen as absurd is not a good election strategy. On the other hand, I doubt that Mourdock and Akin actually swayed many voters into voting for Obama, though there are some liberals who would have voted for Obama anyway who will play with the GOP's mind by falsely claiming that Mourdock and Akin were the reason.
One of the largest elephants in the GOP's post-election room is the fate of Christian and other social conservatives. Party honchos can't just wish this problem away -- or, maybe they can.

There has been increasing hostility toward Christian involvement in politics, and the animus hasn't been solely from the left. To be sure, Democrats have taken the lead, demonizing conservative Christians as science-challenged scolds who don't care about women's "reproductive rights," but there is plenty of antipathy from certain elements within the Republican Party, as well.

Many establishment and some libertarian Republicans have long looked upon Christian conservatives with mild, condescending...