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Scouts Flirt with Dishonor and Destruction

Jack2894 Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 12:50 PM
One aspect of this situation has not been considered: I would be surprised if it hadn't come up inside the scouts. As the culture changes to be more accepting of gay relationships, the scouts will inevitably enroll participants who have gay parents. PArents can and should be involved in their kids scouting, but the organization would allow some parents to do that while preventing others from doing it. That's a bit of a dilemma
Cambermeister Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 12:52 PM
"the scouts will inevitably enroll participants who have gay parents"

Are you trying to be funny?
DCM in FL Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 1:33 PM
No, he's trying to make adoptions by gay couples sound normal/acceptable.
Cambermeister Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 2:03 PM
They told me in middle school it took two genders to create a human. Now,.. I went to government schools...we may not have had the best biology and sex-ed teachers but I sure thought they were correct.
Is it possible to have 'gay' parents?
DCM in FL Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 2:16 PM
Well, nothing about having same-sex attractions makes one physically unable to produce a child with the correct gender. Heterosexuality is the natural default anyway; same-sex attractions don't displace it, merely obscure it.
Jim69 Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 2:18 PM
I know many men and women who have children and are gay. Surely you have at least read about them.
Anominus Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 2:20 PM
@Jim69: And yet, not a single one of them was able to produce those children with a same sex partner - surely you must understand the point.
Jack2894 Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 2:36 PM
Am I trying to be funny? No. Are you trying to be obtuse?
Jack2894 Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 2:37 PM
No DCM, whether you think them acceptable is irrelevant towhether they will be real. And they are real.
Anominus Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 2:42 PM
@Jack@$$: You don't have to "try" to be funny - you are always "funny" in the same manner as a creepy clown or how milk smells "funny" three weeks after it expires.
DCM in FL Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 2:43 PM
Whether I find them acceptable is indeed irrelevant to whether they will be real. But it's not just I who find them unacceptable. It is anyone with enough understanding of both parenting and homosexuality.
Jack2894 Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 2:46 PM
And anominus, not a single one of your concerns changes the reality. There will be children entering hte scouts who have gay parents. How can the scouts deal with that?
Anominus Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 2:51 PM
The kids are welcome in scouts so long as they aren't being used further the pervert agenda of their homosodomite parent. The parent is not welcome. If the kid starts displaying homosodomitic tendencies he's out as well. Easy enough.
Anominus Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 2:53 PM
"And anominus, not a single one of your concerns changes the reality."

Also, my concerns don't require reality to change for them - they are already aligned with reality. It is the homosodomite who feels the need to "change" reality, or at least the appearance of reality, to suit his preferences.
DCM in FL Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 3:06 PM
"They are already aligned with reality... it is the homosodomite who feels the need to 'change' reality" -- Bingo!
Jack2894 Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 3:18 PM
True, it isn't just you. But the numbers that constitute "you" are shrinking dramatically. Look at this reality right here. We are discussing the possibility that the Boy scouts are going to decide they are no longer one of you.
And I understand parenting and homosexuality as well as anyone, so try tnot to pretend you have some exceptional double secret information, at least without producing it.
Jack2894 Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 3:19 PM
SO you are going to welcome the child but not the parent? Not likely to work very well.
Anominus Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 3:23 PM
"SO you are going to welcome the child but not the parent? Not likely to work very well."

Then homosodomites are welcome to take their children elsewhere.
DCM in FL Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 3:44 PM
"And I understand parenting and homosexuality as well as anyone"

If you're defending homosexuality, you're either unfamiliar with or in denial about its realities. You speak of it in terms of its public facade, not its real face. Claim understanding all you want, but you ain't demonstrating it.
Jim69 Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 7:55 PM
I do not see it as a valid point anymore than a man and a woman adopting a child or having one by artificial insemination.
Jay Wye Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 8:29 PM
Jack,I note there is a private religious school who REFUSED to accept a normal child of homo parents. They said the parents could not support the teachings of the school, in re homosexuality,that the parents would be working against the school's efforts.
Jay Wye Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 8:33 PM
that man-woman union still presents the child with the experiences and benefits of NORMAL parenting,the invaluable examples of a real mother and father.
Depriving a child of the experiences of a real mother and father IS abuse.
it's amazing that children still manage to do well despite those obstacles.
but maybe we're beginning to see the results of such madness.

raise a kid by wolves,and the kid thinks it's a wolf.

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Under consideration for a vote during a Feb. 4th to 6th board of directors meeting is a rules change that would overturn the Scouts’ ban on openly homosexual members and leaders.

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