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Irresponsible47Percenter Wrote: Jul 02, 2013 5:06 PM
I have agonized over this at great length, at: http://www.theliberalresponse.com/CommonSenseOnChoice.html among other places. I do not know. But it seems to me that, as long as we are not talking about Abortion, we act as though we think the fetus gradually becomes a human being over the course of pregnancy. As best as science can tell, a good half or more of successful human conceptions to not implant. We don't care, we just flush them down the toilet as a heavy period. When a miscarriage occurs we are sad, but we do not view it as a tragedy like the death of a little child. And certainly, like you say, a newborn baby is a person so how could the baby have been otherwise at the start of labor?
Sharon453 Wrote: Jul 09, 2013 9:36 AM
I beg to differ. There are many of us who view that developing baby as a BABY from the moment we begin to think a new life has been started. The feeling doesn't gradually grow throughout pregnancy. Your assertion that in miscarriage we are sad, but we do not view it as a tragedy is far from accurate. I lost my first pregnancy 44 years ago. Guess what, I still have moments of grief for the life I was unable to hold in my arms. You need to have actually spoken with women who have been through a miscarriage before you post your comments.
Karen1069 Wrote: Jul 02, 2013 8:57 PM
And, that product of conception will never "grow into" anything else but another human being. It will never become a carrot, or a puppy, or a pony. The only thing that it is genetically programmed to become IS a human being. The heart beat can be detected at 21 days after conception, separate, and apart from that of it's mother. Same thing for brain waves a few weeks later. How can it be anything but another human being? It is difficult for some people to grapple with that reality - and summon up the courage to say, "No, you may not kill the tiniest of human beings." They deserve our protection. If we do not demand that they be given the right to live, who will speak up for them?
Karen1069 Wrote: Jul 02, 2013 8:57 PM
And, that product of conception will never "grow into" anything else but another human being. It will never become a carrot, or a puppy, or a pony. The only thing that it is genetically programmed to become IS a human being. The heart beat can be detected at 21 days after conception, separate, and apart from that of it's mother. Same thing for brain waves a few weeks later. How can it be anything but another human being? It is difficult for some people to grapple with that reality - and summon up the courage to say, "No, you may not kill the tiniest of human beings." They deserve our protection. If we do not demand that they be given the right to live, who will speak up for them?
Irresponsible47Percenter Wrote: Jul 02, 2013 5:10 PM
Unlike you, I distinguish between "being alive" and "being a human being". That single cell is obviously "alive" at conception, it's not a rock or some inert thing. It's also of no other species than "human". But we sure do not treat it like a "human being" at conception, as I note above. That comes gradually, more and more, as the pregnancy progresses.

This ABC News segment is a few days old but it’s instructive nonetheless. Why? Because it cuts to the heart of what this whole debate in Texas is really all about: