Stephanie149: "....it is the jihadists....learn the language and pass without pause through the borders....that is trouble." These are the people who will still be trying to sneak across the border while all those Mexicans (that you have no problem with) are getting photographed, fingerprinted, & run through terrorist databases before being issued a guestworker card. Fences won't stop such people. Border agents & drones might, especially since they'll no longer need to deal with immigrants sneaking in to work.

STephanie149: "No one is fighting because Mexicans want to come into our states..." Bullpoop. Read any of these comments. I don't care, *maybe* you don't, but I doubt that.

I know, D/13, it's only because 'they disrespect our laws...'. that's why I read: "Land mines between fences..."

The border fence is a foolish waste of time and money. But if it is the price for a sensible guest-worker program I'm willing to indulge you.

After running a gauntlet to get into the country the undocumented are naturally reluctant to go back and face the same death March next season. Guestworkers would leave freely. Guestworkers could have reduced eligibility by law.

Only the remaining tiny numbers of drug-dealers and terrorists will still try to sneak in! And now the vastly augmented Border security we've developed over the last few years can do THE JOB IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO!

Now, in country's where Grown-Ups set Immigration Policy, they have GuestWorker Programs, where a peasant who wants to work can wait in line with whatever documents he has, get their picture taken, get fingerprinted, retinal-scanned, whatever, (they aren't citizens, and we have a legitimate need for security), and hey presto! THEY AREN'T TRYING TO SNEAK OVER THE BORDER ANY MORE! And they pay taxes when they work!

Just repeating what I read here, D/13...

*very different* Tune: "BUILD THAT FENCE!! 90 FEET HIGH!! Double-Fence-RazorWire-LandMines-Moats-Alligators-RiversOfBoilingOil!!!!" Damn the expense! What happened to all that clear-headed economic practicality? Don't you folks understand basic economics? As long as there is a need for cheap labor at jobs citizens wont do, the undocumented will fulfill it. It's as inevitable as water flowing downstream.

It's a funny thing;The typical RightWingNut has no Problem the the Koch brothers or absolutely nameless Corporate Citizens buying the U.S. Government with untold (and I do mean *untold*, no disclosure necessary) hundreds of millions or even bilions of $$$ , but let an undocumented Mexican sneak over the border and scrub toilets for $2/hr AND THEY GO APLOPLECTIC!! Who knows wy? I sure don't, go figger.... Consequently, when talk turns to campaign finance reform they are all so *practical*, saying stuff like: "Oh, you'll never keep soft money out of politics. It's stupid to try. It's like tryting to stop water from flowing downstream..." But when it comes to THOSE LITTLE BROWN WETBACKS WHO TALK FUNNY, then it's a *very different*...