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What I Ask of Romney and Obama

InsightingTruth Wrote: Sep 05, 2012 11:53 AM
Believing you are making a choice, when the selection is limited to one or the other of two identical candidates, is a very dangerous form of self delusion.
Dbeaux30 Wrote: Sep 05, 2012 12:27 PM
They are not the same. Sorry, if you can't see that. One is a leader and will get things done in a positive way. Romney will get things moving in generally the right direction. It is easier to move more to the right than turn around.
InsightingTruth Wrote: Sep 05, 2012 12:32 PM
What specifically will Romney do?
Dbeaux30 Wrote: Sep 05, 2012 12:36 PM
He will lead and solve problems. This is based on his history. I will not always agree with his solutions which is why electing constitutionslists to congress is important and why I am sorry to see RP retire.
JustMC Wrote: Sep 05, 2012 12:50 PM
Sorry, but "lead and solve problems" is utterly and totally vague to the point of uselessness (and to downright hilarity to boot).

You really should watch Doug Stanhope's bit on rehab.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBYmiYnFg4M

If you don't have the time for all of it, fast forward to 6:22 and start there.
anti-neocon Wrote: Sep 05, 2012 1:05 PM
"lead and solve problems". that's what i call specific !!
Dbeaux30 Wrote: Sep 05, 2012 1:16 PM
He will do whatever it takes to balance the budget and put our country on solid financial footing. If that is all he does, it is worth getting him there. This is what his history proves and that is sufficient reason to vote for him. Now, I will not agree with a lot of his positions, this is why I advocate getting constitutionalists in congress.
JustMC Wrote: Sep 05, 2012 1:21 PM
Dbeaux30 said: "He will do whatever it takes to balance the budget and put our country on solid financial footing."

Please, please, please bet me a RIDONCULOUS amount of money on this. We'll do it right, sign contracts with attorneys and put the money in escrow. I would bet my LIFE against what you are saying. You can't honestly believe it. Even Romney isn't saying it.
InsightingTruth Wrote: Sep 05, 2012 1:25 PM
What makes you think Romney will do anything to balance the budget. He has never proposed a serious plan. He adopted Ryan as his VP, and Ryan's plan does not even pretend to balance a budget for forty years, and we all no that this years budget is not binding on next years Congress. Saying you will balancing future budgets but not this years is pure nonsense.
JustMC Wrote: Sep 05, 2012 12:02 PM
Well said.

Going a step further, if one looks closely at the thought process of many who make this mistake, I *think* the fallacy they most commonly employ is "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Many people are rightly against Obama or against the Romneys of the world. The fallacy is that the second-party-default "alternative" to either is significantly different from the one they correctly despise.

The second huge fallacy is that people fail to distinguish between what politicians SAY and what they actually DO.

We need to grow an INFORMED electorate that is FOR liberty. Instead we have an uninformed electorate that only has lots of pet gripes with one or the other of the two major parties.

The Republican Convention ended on the theme "Believe in America." That sounded nice, but it was just another platitude. Mitt Romney's speech was filled with platitudes: "We will honor America's democratic ideals. ... We're united to preserve liberty."

Please.

Liberals and conservatives have real differences. We should state them.

America is going broke, and tough decisions must be made. To save our future, we must slow the growth of entitlements and military spending. Mitt Romney was silent about that.

Sure, "Believing in America" means individuals get to decide how to run the businesses we create. But it...