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The Unconstitutional Attack on Crisis Pregnancy Centers

InsightingTruth Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 11:27 AM
Pesonhood hints at the real issue. Neither side in the abortion debate respect individual freedom, or the U.S. Constitution. The struggle is between two groups of intransigent ideologues. The bulk of Americans prefer individual empowerment, and are simply caught in the middle of two competing advocates of tyranny.
AD15 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 11:56 AM
Twisting and spinning. Didn't work.

Read the Federalist Papers. You will find that ALL freedoms that the founding fathers dealt with ONLY went so far as they INFRINGED on the rights of others.
Ther is no mention of privacy in the constitution. And I challenge you to prove otherwise.

This disaster has boiled down to just one thing. Do you believe the "rights" of the woman to be free of her decision to have relatioonship in a physical way should TOTALLY void the rigts f the child to LIVE.
Now, move from your philosophical smoke and mirrors to the real world. Go ASK the person whose mother was considering abortion but did not do it, if they are GLAD that they are alive. My niece was date raped decades ago. She carried the child a
AD15 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 11:59 AM
and it was put up for adoption. He lives in the panhandle of Texas. Ask if he is glad to be alive. Then go geta video of an abortion. Watch as the child pulls back and tries to avoid the suction tube that literally pulls his body apart.

This is NOT about competing ideologies. This is abou LIFE AND DEATH. And the devil is thrilled with what is still going on. He is expecially thrilled with your decision to continue to support murder of the helpless. By the way, this is not about race. I am white and 40% of te babies killed are black.
InsightingTruth Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 12:09 PM

Please read the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. If it does not speak of a right to privacy, what does it say?

The Federalist Papers are not part of our law.

It is not a matter of believing. Humans have rights. Women, by a slim margin, are considered to be human. Therefore women have rights. Therefore women have a right to privacy.

Please tell me how you will know a women is pregnant, if she does not tell you, and you are not in a position to have legitimate access to her medical records?
InsightingTruth Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 12:20 PM
When I replied to your post, the second part had not yet loaded. So I was not aware of your vehement spewing.

For the record, I am pro-life. But part of loving life is opposing tyranny even if it is promoted by those who should be my allies in promoting limited government.
cathi2 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 12:38 PM
Wait about 6-7 months...the baby makes his presence known to the outside world...( internally, the mother usually knows he's there from about 12-14 weeks or so...)
Spikeygrrl Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 7:09 PM
"Women, BY A SLIM MARGIN, are considered to be human"?!

SHAME ON YOU!!!!! I suppose you'd rather kill the mother -- only "marginally human," after all -- and keep the fetus. Oh, unless the fetus is female, of course. Can't have all those "marginal" types cluttering up the planet, right?
InsightingTruth Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 10:14 PM
It's not me. I was referencing a historical action by the Catholic church. In the year 584, in Lyon, France, 43 Catholic bishops and 20 men representing other bishops, after a lengthy debate, took a vote. The results were 32 yes, 31 no. Women were declared human by one vote.

You can't change history, but you can learn about it, and become wiser for the effort.

“Does a grocery store have to post a sign stating it doesn’t offer apparel?” asks Pam Cobern, the executive director of Austin LifeCare, a crisis pregnancy center in Austin, Texas. Then why, she insists, does her pro-life office have to post a notice stating it does not provide “medical services” such as abortion?

Austin LifeCare is the latest in a string of pro-life pregnancy resource centers across the country required to hang a sign that could potentially turn customers away. The city of Austin passed a 2012 ordinance stating that LifeCare, along with three other local pregnancy centers, must post...