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Marriage Best Left to Churches

InsightingTruth Wrote: Dec 13, 2012 10:10 AM
Finally a rabid religionist that gets it! Congratulations Ms Cushman. Government does not have, and cannot have, lawful authority to define marriage. Once you understand that, everything just falls into place.
Beethovens10th Wrote: Dec 13, 2012 10:33 AM
But you want the government to have the authority to define "civil union." What's the difference. You're just exchanging terms.
inkling_revival Wrote: Dec 13, 2012 10:26 AM
Government also does not have, and never will have, lawful authority to define morality, like "Don't murder" and "Don't steal." God defines morality.

And yet, the state does write laws establishing the boundaries of those acts and enforces them. It must in order to keep the peace; otherwise, we would face feuds and vigilantes over killings that were in self-defense, for example.

Government has the same need and the same mandate from God (or Nature, if you must) to define, license, and protect marriage, a productive union of two people of opposite gender that confers immense benefits to society.
inkling_revival Wrote: Dec 13, 2012 10:26 AM
Government also does not have, and never will have, lawful authority to define morality, like "Don't murder" and "Don't steal." God defines morality.

And yet, the state does write laws establishing the boundaries of those acts and enforces them. It must in order to keep the peace; otherwise, we would face feuds and vigilantes over killings that were in self-defense, for example.

Government has the same need and the same mandate from God (or Nature, if you must) to define, license, and protect marriage, a productive union of two people of opposite gender that confers immense benefits to society.
InsightingTruth Wrote: Dec 13, 2012 10:36 AM
It must be true. You have no inkling of what you are talking about.

The current conundrum regarding the legalization of same-sex marriage is what happens when church and state are mixed -- the topics become confusing and confused.

When I married my husband almost 15 years ago, I did so out of love and out of a desire to witness before God my commitment to him and his to me. The legal and tax ramifications did not enter into my head.

But for couples of the same sex, the legal and tax ramifications can be very important because their legal rights differ from those of heterosexual couples in a number of ways,...