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scrow Wrote:26 mins ago (12:43 PM) There wasn't much we could do before the report, either. What is is that you think the U.S. could have done that they now can't do due to the report? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Its about having the moral high ground.....right now we still do, but tomorrow if ISIS puts up a video of them doing what we did except they do it to an American, then we really can't say much because we are the ones that have shown from our actions that its ok to torture at least to a certain extent...... This report should have never come out, it just fuels the fire....I am sure there are times when torture was necessary, but its better to keep it behind closed doors....
at least we had the moral high ground, now if they do the same thing we do, we can't say anything..... we have set the standard of what can be tolerated as far as torture....
Cops aren't the problem, they do what they are allowed to do, maybe a bit more in certain situations.....we need to limit what they can do, and also think about limiting the gear they have, they don't need tanks....we do have a national guard that has all the advanced weaponry for the more chaotic situations....
agreed, i am just as close, and I avoid Detroit..... if you want don't want bad things to happen to you then avoid bad places, it will at least reduce the chances....
We need to stay out of this, let the people of Pakistan see how brutal their heroes are.... they need to stand up on their own.... If we get involved they will blame us for everything and instead of a potential muslim vs mulsim situation we will be back to the muslim vs west....
Chesteronfan, they are not innocent, they are looking the other way while these terrorists kill innocents....that is the main problem with Muslims, they are not all terrorists, but for the most part they are compliant with these savages, they don't care either way...so don't ever consider them innocent, they know exactly who is living in the house next to them, they just don't care....
"but at least one Gul Ruhman we know was tortured at the notorious CIA black site known as the Salt Pit, chained to the floor and frozen to death." http://stopwar.org.uk/news/the-cia-chained-him-to-the-floor-and-froze-him-to-death-but-who-was-gul-ruhman multiple reports, you can look it up.... its not about the other side, its about what will happen next..... i agree with the process, but we don't need to advertise it....if it happens to an American then we really can't say much anymore, because now its the standard practice set by us....
like usual we will be apologizing to the muslims for americans being tortured....
I have no issue with what they did, but they should have redacted a lot of the report. Within the next year we will have an American on you tube being water boarded and then tied to a cell floor and left to die....and there won't be much we can do, because we are the ones that set the standard of how much torture is ok.....
If gas prices stay around 2 dollars then there is really no cost advantage to driving electric.....
agreed, body cameras will solve a lot of the problems....also maybe tasers would help, if wilson had one more readily available he could have avoided this whole mess...
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