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So using your thinking we cannot fight them at all...no matter what we do we will lose, because we are fighting an Idea...... So once again us getting involved will not help and is not in our interest...its better we push the middle eastern countries like Jordan to fight the war....this is a and should have always been a Muslim vs Muslim war.... once the "civilized" Muslims see what ISIS and similar groups are doing to their own people then they will fight them ... This fight will probably never get to Israel, or us.....and if it does then we can take them out quickly....One nuke hitting mecca will scare every terrorists into compliance forever....
wjf what is my conspiracy????
tibby i never said they would, i just said they can defend themselves against ISIS
Henry they are not a threat to us....the middle eastern countries have already started to take down ISIS themselves..... Something like this needs to be fought Muslim vs Muslim, it cannot be western world vs Muslim...because then we become everyone enemy... Jordan will lead the way, it will never come to them fighting against Israel...
secure our borders, building a wall, fence and put troops there is the right thing to do..... not waste time and resources in the middle east...
where did you get that the Nazi's were not our fight.... did you forget Pearl Harbor, Japan attacked us, Japan who was their ally did it to cripple our navy... We were the ones attacked and that pushed us into war....also the massive slaughter of people, and when I mean massive I mean millions, not thousands....is a reason to go to war... You are comparing the Nazi's to a group of thugs, and whatever ISIS has done is not even close to the evil things the Nazi's did... ISIS can want to do a lot of things, they have 50k troops at most, and spread pretty thin...Israel will have no issues wiping them out... You must think really badly of Israel to think they are not capable of taking care of themselves, they are not a welfare state that needs US funding to survive, they have a solid country and power military...they are probably one of the smartest group of people in the world, they do not need us to fight a war for them..
1 - just an option based on the fact they have about 650k troops (reserve and active), nuclear weapons, and plenty of missile and anti-missile tech to fight and defend themselves....also the only country with a larger military is Iran, but they do not have teh nuclear advantage...I have heard a lot of different numbers for ISIS, 20k-50k, so even with the high number they are not really a huge threat... Israel can take care of itself, it would wipe the floors with any middle eastern country including Iran, because I am sure when push came to shove Tehran would just end up getting nuked by Israel, something which is between them and the USA should not try to stop... 2- Paul knows what he is talking about, if we keep going this way we will go bankrupt and a bankrupt country has no chance in securing its borders or protecting other countries.
Its not blindfolds or ear plugs...its the fact that its not our fight.... If anything its the Mulsim countries that should be fighting this war together....the King of Jordan actually understand that and hopefully he can get the other countries to join in.. either way not our fight, and we have more issues at home to deal with...
West they have more then enough to do what they need to... and if all they wanted is moral support then i would give it to them blindly, but they obviously want more... they want American troops on the ground, and that is something I will never agree with..... Also you are assuming that all middle eastern nations are against Israel, I am pretty sure, the UAE, Saudis, Jordan and a few others would stand by Israel....
I think we just disagree...the atrocities done by the Nazi are far worst then what ISIS is currently doing...to even compare them is to insult the people who went through that time, I am sure they can tell you how much worst and real of a threat the Nazi's were. I agree ISIS's power is spread through Islam, I think we can both agree that Islam is not the religion of Peace, and if anything that they actually promote this type of behavior. My main point, and this is where we disagree is that Israel can take care of itself. They do not need our help to take out ISIS or any other threat, and in the same way they shouldn't be asking us for help, we shouldn't be trying to stop them for doing what they need to do to protect themselves. They can do what they want and we can do what we want...
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