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Look at England

hvogel Wrote: Mar 25, 2013 8:12 AM
Unfortunately, the patriot who shoots at police over an unlawful raid will end up dead when the police return fire. The patriot's family may suffer the same fate, since the return fire will be almost certainly overwhelming. In one on one confrontations, the police will always have the advantage in numbers and firepower.
MG formerly minnesotagrandma Wrote: Mar 25, 2013 10:15 AM
Possible but there was a guy in Minneapolis( Vang Khang)a few years ago who managed it. I think he used a shotgun. Police broke down the wrong door and he opened fire. Police did return fire but no one was hurt.

Look at England.

Self defense is all but illegal. "Call the Constable, lad. He'll file a report." Guns are rare, but violent crime is rampant.

Everyone depends on the government for health care. With that worry "removed," they think it works. Except for the sick and dying waiting in long lines or thirsting to death in their unchecked beds.

We're just a decade or three behind, but on the same path.

America, America, God shed clear sight on thee. And crown thy past, with, at long last, a future...