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"If You've Got A Business, You Didn't Build That"

HoovervilleFollies Wrote: Jul 17, 2012 9:53 PM
Typical right-wing either-or, black-or-white "thinking." People can take pride in working hard and reaping success, but they should realize that they also are part of a community in which other people give a boost to their success. That's all the President is saying, but conservatives are so wedded to the absurd premise that they are a bunch of autonomous beings operating in a vacuum that they can't abide anyone pointing it out -- especially the guy they most love to hate.
PMcQB Wrote: Jul 18, 2012 12:07 PM
You're fooling yourself if you think the statist government doesn't want to control everyone's lives - including yours.
quincyadams Wrote: Jul 18, 2012 9:23 AM
NO, its not what he is saying ...he is basically saying everyone got a leg up from the government. This is patently not true and in many cases the government is a barrier to success, not a helper....
accept reality Wrote: Jul 18, 2012 7:25 AM

Who gets to decide what part of personal success belongs to the 'people' on your planet?
AZBJD Wrote: Jul 17, 2012 11:28 PM
That's not what the President or Elizabeth Warren is saying. All of this is a pretext or justification for the further destruction of property rights and greater taxation. What they are really saying is "We have a Right to your property" because you used public goods and services to make a profit. Just like Michael Moore said about rich people's money, "That’s not theirs, that’s a national resource, that’s ours". This is not a benign statement. It is an affront to individual rights and people know it.

Stumping for re-election in Virginia over the weekend, President Obama channeled faux Native American and genuine collectivist Elizabeth Warren in disparaging individual accomplishment:


"Look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own.  You didn’t get there on your own.  I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart.  There are a lot of smart people out there.  It must be...