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The Case for Self-Defense After a Massacre: A Look at the Luby's Massacre

HermanBB Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 3:21 PM
To the pro-gun crowd: How would have have prevented the Sandy Hook school shooting? The school principal and the teacher in a classroom of 6 year olds should have kept a loaded weapon in their desk or purse? Never mind that would have been caught completely off guard when the crazed gunman burst into the school.
Jay Wye Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 6:08 PM
"progressives" are the only ones talking about armed children.

because they are not rational.
cambeul41 Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 5:10 PM
Not on the desk or purse, securely holstered on the body.

There are no guarantees, but a fighting chance is better than none.
deprogramming services Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 3:42 PM
Herman, you arrogant nitwit: since other posters here have done such a good job of explaining the absurdity of your lie, there's nothing left for me to say other than that you have to be a brain dead liberal dupe to believe what you wrote, and if people as stupid as you want to remain unarmed and unable to resist violence that's perfectly ok with me; what is not ok is for fools like you to be manipulated by those who seek to be our masters into taking part in a campaign to undermine the Constitution and render all of us unarmed.
Robert3086 Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 3:33 PM
How many adults in the school... 30 or 40? Number of gunmen... 1. If 20% of Adults had a gun in the school the ratio of "good guns" to Bad guns would be about 6 or 8 to 1. The other point being, If the gunman knew that there was a probability of armed resistance he most likely wouldn't have tried in the first place.
Luscious Lars Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 3:43 PM
Great points. Do we know how big of a school this was? How many teachers/admin worked there? Maybe it was more than 30 or 40, all told. And Robert3086 is absolutely correct. The shooter was familiar with that school. If he knew there were armed teachers inside, even if he didn't know who they were, would he have still attacked? We can't be certain, but it's more likely that he wouldn't have. Even he still attacked, the chances of him being stopped would have risen from "ZERO".
Luscious Lars Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 3:32 PM
First of all, Hermie, the tragedy may not have been preventable, at least not at 100% certainty, no matter what anyone might propose. We need to get off of this kick that we can come up with some law or action WHICH WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THE KILLINGS. Now, we can do some things to try and lessen the likelihood that the killer would have been successful. I believe having teachers in that school, with carry permits, plus maybe an armed guard or multiples, would have increased the likelihood that the shooter could have been stopped before killing 26 people. Obama's girls go to a school with 11 armed guards, I've heard. Why do they have armed guards at that school, but we can't have them in the schools where our kids attend classes, Hermie?
Texan1984 Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 3:30 PM
To Herman BB Brain:

You obviously have never even read how the massacre unfolded. The school principal was not caught completely off guard. She and her colleague heard the gunshots as the gunman shot his way into the locked front door. Then they went into the hallway to confront the deranged gunman.....without a gun of their own. What did Mr. deranged gunman do when about to be confronted by somebody with a gun? Well, he blew his own brains out didn't he.

However, I know what I will do to when the 'anti-gun crowd' (you included) come through my door to take my firearms away. Just make sure you put your money where your mouth is and leave your pop-gun at home. We'll see how far you get.
psydoc Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 3:29 PM
That is a ridiculous assumption, Herman. The minute the shooting started, armed individuals would have been alerted to the situation. You assumption is that only one person would have been able to respond. When the woman who confronted him in the hall was shot, the teachers, and other armed individuals would have been able to stop Lanz before he killed the children.

In 1991, a man named George Hennard drove his truck through the front of a Luby's Cafateria in Killeen, Texas. It wasn't an accident. He hadn't lost control of his vehicle but instead was there to kill. After crashing into the restaurant, Hennard jumped out and started killing as many people as he could. Dr. Suzanna Gratia was there that day eating lunch with her parents. At the time, it was a felony in the state of Texas to carry a firearm inside a purse and Gratia left her gun in the car. Al Gratia, her father, attempted to rush...