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T-Ball War in the Middle East

HermanBB Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 9:59 AM
Q. Why does Hamas send rockets into Israel? A. It might have something to do with the fact they feel Israel stole their land.
Edges Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 9:04 AM
BB Brain

Everyone on this thread knows you are an idiot. Any time you open your mouth it only provides more evidence.
obmug Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 11:19 PM
"Stole" might not be the exact word to use.....did not many of the landowners in what is now Israel sell their land to pro-Zionisr interests in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries? And by "sell" I mean at arms' length.. Would you advocate the US return Massachusetts and Connecticut to the Pequods or Pokanokets et al to the British Crown?

On second thought, don't answer the above.....that might be something worth looking into.

Oh, by the way, I had no idea Herman was an Arabic name.
Neal from PA Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 1:26 PM
They may feel that Israel stole their land, but that isn’t correct. After the Romans cleared out and decimated the mighty cities built by Jews like King Herod, Palestine was an arid, sparsely populated backwater that was eventually claimed (for land bridge reasons) by the Ottoman Empire, then by the British Empire. Jews have lived in the region continuously for well over 2,000 years. The British found themselves overseeing an indigenous population made up of Jews and Arabs-and sometimes Arab Jews. All were referred to as "Palestinians."
Neal from PA Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 1:28 PM
Ownership of the land was a patch work. Much of the land was owned by absentee landlords who lived in places like Egypt, and farmed by local Arab Palestinians. This may have made many Palestinians believe it was "their land," but sorry, that just wasn't the case.

As the Zionist movement gained traction in the early 1900s, Jews around the world contributed to a fund to buy up tranches of land, and much of the land for the future Jewish state envisioned by the early Zionists was acquired this way. Once again, the poor Arabs living on and farming the land may not have been happy to give up the land they lived on, but it was not "stolen from them," because they didn't own it to begin with.
Neal from PA Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 1:30 PM

It has been often said many, many times…”If the Arabs would lay down their arms, there would be peace; but if Israel lays down its arms, there would be no more Israel.”

So it’s not hard to figure out who wants peace and who doesn’t…

“Radical Islam…spring will never arrive as long as it holds sway over the minds and hearts of the people.” Yet the “Free World” continues to send money…more money to “Radical Islamists” under the assumption and disguise, that it is helping the everyday people. It only continues to prolong the sway…if the money stops the people will be forced to decide what is best for them and the sway will eventually give way to free choice by the people.
obmug Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 11:24 PM
You are so right!! And now, as in many situations today, we are asked (or even told) to ignore fact or truth and act upon "feelings".
DavidM Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 10:57 AM
Umm when you invade someones country and LOSE then any land you lose isn't stolen, tard.

And Israel marched its own citizens out of Gaza years ago, but goose steppers like yourself ignore that fact don't you?
wpqr Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 10:16 AM
How is firing rockets into Israel going to get them the land back?

And if I remember, Israel gave them the land 7 years ago when they withdrew all their soldiers and settlers from Gaza.
Kimbery Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 10:09 AM
Picking a fight with a bigger, stronger, smarter, richer enemy is stupidity no matter what you "feel" he has done to you.

Israel is the only country in the region that isn't a festering sh*thole. If only the world could get passed this idiotic anti-semetism...

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Wars then are prevented only by a balance of power and military deterrence: aggressors have to be warned that it would be stupid to start a war they will likely lose. If there are miscalculations or if emotions run high and logic is ignored, then the...