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Gang of 8 to Gang Up Against Amendments to Illegal Immigration Reform Bill

Henry VIII Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 2:08 PM
T172 Wrote: 8 minutes ago (1:56 PM) I don't know, there's a good video on youtube of a couple mexican girls (children basically) scaling the fence in under 18 seconds. Unless we want to stack armed guards every 100 yards I don't know what you can do. We put men on the moon, we can figure out how to seal the borders. We can start with an in your face message to the Mexican government, followed with consequences if they don't listen up.
westriversd Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 2:57 PM
A couple of nights with an AC-130 gunship testing their weapons near the areas close to the invaders. I would think word would get around that this isn't the safest way to enter/invade the United States. No, of course we must spend billions of dollars creating a brown shirt Army, basically duplicating what we already have in the military. The border crossings by millions are no different than a foreign country violating our border sanctity. A primary function of DOD is to protect and defend our borders from foreign invasion.
dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 4:16 PM

"violating our border sanctity!"

Haha! Last we heard, New York City was crawling with bedbugs! So much for your sanctity worries.

T172 Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 2:13 PM
I look at it like drugs. For the last 50 years we've spent close to $100 billion dollars.

What did we get? Price of cocaine fell from around $300 a gram to around $40 a gram depending on how far north you live. The potency of marijuana has (according to the DEA) increased by 10 times (probably not, their study is deeply flawed but you get my point).

History has shown us where there is a will, there is a way. Besides the mexican government is barely in control of the country they would have no way to exercise that kind of control over its people.
No-Way-Jose Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 2:21 PM
Not really a good analogy. The ill effects of drugs are almost entirely borne by the user himself. The ill effects of illegals are felt by virtually everyone. If the argument is that enforcement can't stop something then we should essentially give up on enforcing all laws.
T172 Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 2:23 PM
I'm not saying don't enforce the laws, just have realistic expectations.

Illegal immigratoin, like drugs, are going to happen no matter what the government does.
Kali_Fred Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 2:38 PM
ONLY IF YOU ALLOW IT. Mexico doesn't have much a problem with illegals. Why? They throw 'em in jail, not lavish them with free stuff.
T172 Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 2:45 PM
Who would want to sneak into mexico?
dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 4:08 PM

Jose parses the words tenderly: Oh! "Ill effects of drugs" not HOOKED like a fish. Not crushing society for a VICE. Easy to cope with!!!

Illegals will be the doom of EVERYONE! You'd rather have a nation of crack addicts! Guys like you are sluts.

For about a week now we've been hearing that the Gang of 8 isn't interested in allowing amendments to be added to its new illegal immigration reform overhaul. A piece in POLITICO further points to this being true. As a reminder, the Gang of 8 bill was crafted behind closed doors. 

After being locked out of the process for so long, Democratic and Republican senators are anxious to get a crack at amending the bill, setting up a treacherous path through the Judiciary Committee to the Senate floor that threatens to undermine the delicate compromise.