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Sometimes War is the Answer

Harrison Bergeron Wrote: Jan 03, 2013 8:34 AM
Right sentiment, wrong battle, Bill. This was just a skirmish. The debt ceiling is the war -- next month. THAT'S the un-crossable line. This was an un-winnable battle. Bad things happened if we didn't do SOMETHING. But in exchange for higher taxes on a few (incomes over 450K instead of 250K!), we LOCKED IN the Bush tax rates for EVERYONE ELSE PERMANENTLY, and POSTPONED THE DEATH TAX for estates over 1M. We lost a battle. But with luck, Speaker Bone-head will succumb to this battle's wounds and a general with a backbone will emerge for the war. And the beauty of the debt ceiling war is, WE WIN BY DOING NOTHING. WE DON'T EVEN NEED A VOTE TO WIN! ALL WE NEED IS A LITTLE BACKBONE!
Texas Chris Wrote: Jan 03, 2013 10:07 AM
That's what they always say. Not this time. Next time. Not yet. Next month. Next year. After the election. Once we've got the White House. After the war is over.

No. Stand on principle, now, today, always. If you lose the next election, so what.
Harrison Bergeron Wrote: Jan 03, 2013 11:38 AM
Its easier to stand on principal when you don't have to get your enemy to vote for it too!

But next month, we can REALLY stand on our principals -- by JUST REFUSING TO EVEN CONSIDER A BILL TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING!

Imagine it -- a balanced budget, right now, and we don't even need anyone's permission to do it.

Now THAT'S a war worth fighting over!

Negotiations generally occur when two parties want the same thing but remain apart as to the size or the extent of the issue in question. 

On the other hand, war is declared when two parties with differing views are resolute in their positions. 

Obama, Biden, Boehner, Ryan, Reid, Pelosi, McConnell, McCain, and the rest of the unprincipled legislators who voted for this most recent tax bill abomination all settled for the same thing – higher taxes and increased spending. 

The Democrats got exactly what they wanted.