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Obama: The Fetus Is "A Potential Life" But Viability Is A "Moving Target"

Happy Jake Wrote: Oct 04, 2012 6:00 AM
... Then you get the "viability" crowd, "heartbeat" crowd, the "it looks like a baby" crowd, and the "alpha wave patterns" crowd (I saw this on some comments a few weeks ago), and each of these milestones is (a) impossible to pinpoint on a macro scale and (b) difficult-to-impossible to measure even on an individual basis. Then there's the wholely arbitrary "trimester" crowd who measure not the development of the child, but the number of months the mother has been pregnant. (To whom I ask: What's the difference between a baby who is 3 months old and one who is three months plus a day?) Anti-abortionists have the only logically, scientifically sound definiton of the beginning of human life: fertilization. The sperm and the egg,...
Navy-baby Wrote: Oct 04, 2012 11:03 AM
Perfectly stated, Jake. It is just semantics to argue "viable vs pre-viable." Left undisturbed, every fetus will grow into the next stage of infanthood, just as toddlers eventually grow into adulthood. These are ages and stages of the exact same human being created at the moment of conception--whether in-utero, or out.

Science has proved it to be true; and in-vitro procedures take place when the "pre-viable" embryo has only reached the 8-cell division state. That's quite a long time before they are able to live outside the womb, yet obviously ARE already a life--otherwise, what would be the point of paying for such an expensive treatment to become pregnant?
Navy-baby Wrote: Oct 04, 2012 11:03 AM
Perfectly stated, Jake. It is just semantics to argue "viable vs pre-viable." Left undisturbed, every fetus will grow into the next stage of infanthood, just as toddlers eventually grow into adulthood. These are ages and stages of the exact same human being created at the moment of conception--whether in-utero, or out.

Science has proved it to be true; and in-vitro procedures take place when the "pre-viable" embryo has only reached the 8-cell division state. That's quite a long time before they are able to live outside the womb, yet obviously ARE already a life--otherwise, what would be the point of paying for such an expensive treatment to become pregnant?
Happy Jake Wrote: Oct 04, 2012 6:01 AM
... The sperm and the egg, individually, are alive, but are not distinct human lives genetically (they only have a portion of the genome from each parent. THEY are "potential" human life). The fertilized egg has its own genome (making it distinct) that does not change through development (making it human) and it is neither dead nor inanimate (making it life).

A new video has surfaced and The Brody File has the exclusive of State Senator, Barack Obama back in Sept. 8, 2004, talking about how the human fetus is a “potential life.” (As opposed to an actual life.)

He also goes on to say that the viability of that “potential life” is a “moving target.” He made these comments at a small business event in Springfield, Ill.

I wonder if Barack was unmoved when he "punished" Michelle with a baby because there was, after all, only a "potential life" living inside of her.

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