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gsw Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 2:43 AM
Wotanidiot once again post several remarks with out once being right. Aside from his normal religious slurs and aspersions on the 150 million people who do not share his demented delusions he pretends to be knowledgeable about morality and succeeds in demonstrating that he is as stupid in that area as all others. Behavior is learned. The concepts of moral and immoral are the product of indoctrination within a society. All animal organisms have two innate characteristics -1) to be free of confinement and 2) the desire to dominate. And that has been mans legacy throughout history. What morality a child has they are taught There is no such thing as innate morality And the idea that children have an innate sense of fairness is laughable
gsw Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 3:04 AM
Children are selfish, dominating and know that everything is “mine” . And in most places of the world they would just as soon kill the Little Red Hen as share with it. That Christianity has been a positive mediating affect on human nature for the last 2000 years is undisputable. Those who voice remonstrations to the contrary just show an ignorance of historical fact, a hateful obsession to vilify that which has been denied them and which they have neither the wisdom nor intellectual honesty to comprehend.
WodenofAzgard Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 3:47 AM
There's a reason Locke talked about Man and not Child. Two-year olds don't have sufficient reasoning skills to grasp reciprocity and don't know enough about reality to understand they aren't the center of the universe and owners of everything.

If you were a parent of slightly older children, you could see their innate sense of fairness in action by dishing them up some cake and giving one a noticeably bigger piece. I've never heard of a parent telling their kids they should all get an equal share but kids aren't shy about voicing their disapproval when they don't get it. How do you explain that if fairness is learned?
gsw Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 4:21 AM
First of all behavior is learned - but as pointed out the human organism seeks independence and dominence (BF Skinner - Behaviorism studies) the organism is selfish and acts to satisfy itself The child isn't seeking fairness but more. Most kids would wiling eat a bigger piece and not suggest you take it from them and give it to Johnny - unless they have been taught that is the right thing to do. The reference to Locke and a child eludes me. Plus Locke contended humans had God given rights - he never suggested man was innately moral.
gsw Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 4:39 AM
Now why in the world would you think I would want to waste my time trying to explain something to you that you do not want to understand.The answer is easy and obvious. Oh and Christianity isn't mythology just because you choose to slur it The truth is (according to Calvin) God chooses who is to believe and apparently He has no desire for you So you are going to either nowhere or Hell
WodenofAzgard Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 11:52 AM
The innate sense of fairness isn't behavior any more than the sense of gratitude is behavior so I'm somewhat mystified as to why you'd confuse the two. Self-interest is also innate so it's usually the kids who get less who complain about the lack of fairness, not the ones who get more, kinda like slaves tend to bring up the unfairness of slavery more than slave-owners. That doesn't mean the kids who get more cake and the slave-owners are unaware of the unfairness, it just means they're less likely to bring it up and more likely to rationalize it as the way things should be.
gsw Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 1:43 PM
You have no idea what you are talking about - confounding instinct with behavior - and pretending there is no well documented school of thought on the subject. - as with religion it is apparent you do not have sufficient knowledge to make any discussion worthwhile or productive - one doen't respond to you because of the quality of your post, but rather because you are such an abvious attraction for derision - and the fact that you have sex with your parents and siblings is irrelevant.
WodenofAzgard Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 5:13 PM
Another rightwinger bluff and fold. Wotta surprise.
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