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The Fool Says, ‘There is no God’

Gordon79 Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 4:18 PM
The more pressing issue is not whether there is God or not but if one exists, is it a Christian God, i.e. one that matters in our daily lives with all the rules and the Jesus-dead-Jesus-alive theme and creation of THIS world with all its evil and chance and suffering. If its just some kind of creator, fine, who cares; that's why I'm agnostic, not atheist. How the hell could I "know"? In a cosmic sense, I'm just a fish in a bowl and all I should have to do, to be loved by a God and "saved" should be to be a fish! But Christian God, organized God requires me to live to specific rules, to get some water on my forehead in order to be saved. No, those are man-made constructs that have nothing to do with Bang or not.
Blowtorch of Reason Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 4:21 PM
Christianity (as well as Judaism and Islam) are creations by man to control ignorant man.
RockinRickOwen Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 4:26 PM
If you had claimed that Christianity and Judaism as religious institutions are creations by man to control other men, I would agree with that. But as presented in the Bible, not so. Even the Priests of the OT had very little civil authority. Their main responsibilities were teaching the Torah and running the Tabernacle. They were not granted any authority for forcing the children of Israel to follow the Torah or present sacrifices.
AliveInHim Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 4:34 PM
So who's forcing you to live by those tenets?
ElihuE Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 5:37 PM
Advice: Ignore these lost souls; they're making their choice...

“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” – Genesis 1:1

Be they theist or be they atheist, on this most scientists agree: In the beginning there was nothing. There was no time, space or matter. There wasn’t even emptiness, only nothingness. Well, nothing natural anyway.

And then, bang! Everything. Nonexistence became existence. Nothing became, in less than an instant, our inconceivably vast and finely tuned universe governed by what mankind would later call – after we too popped into existence from nowhere, fully armed with conscious awareness and the ability to think, communicate and observe – “natural law”...