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Orwellian: Great Britain to Establish “New Press Regulations”

GodsLaws Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 11:48 AM
DB07 Wrote: 8 minutes ago (11:32 AM): "With all respect for your religeous beliefs, "natural rights" are inalienable also." ____________________________________________________ What exactly is the source of these "natural rights" you claim are inalienable. And by what power are they dispensed? The Declaration of Independence defines rights as "endowed by [our] Creator..." Since this is a Founding Document which defines the moral and lawful basis for our government, its acknowledgement of our rights as beyond the power of the state to invalidate, any inference that there are questionable "superstitions" behind this declaration can only serve to invalidate the contract between the people and the state. And that only serves tyranny.
DB07 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 12:11 PM
I'm well aware of the contents of the Declaration of Independence. I respectfully disagree with your analysis. The rights referred to had been alternately called "natural rights" by some of the philosophers the founders drew from. Had the founding document so referenced those rights, our acknowledgement of those rights would have been no less binding. And we are not, remember, a theocracy.
Bufa Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 12:19 PM
No.
But we are a nation who's laws are based "Christain" principles.
Col Bat Guano Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 12:23 PM
Natural rights bestowed by humans on humans can be reversed when convenient. Human history is littered with the blood and bodies to prove it.
DB07 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 12:26 PM
Western principals, which rely heavily on Christianity. Note that no scripture was used in either the Declaration nor the Constitution.
DB07 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 12:27 PM
And Christians have never ben likewise deprived of their rights??
Earl29 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 12:27 PM
Natural rights cannot be bestowed by humans. They cannot be taken away by humans. They are inherent in us. They can be protected or violated; they cannot be granted or taken away.
psydoc Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 12:41 PM
That is where I would disagree with you, DB07. The right to freely express their religion has been denied regularly.
DB07 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 12:49 PM
Agreed psydoc, but as Earl said rights can be violated, but not taken away.
psydoc Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 12:54 PM
Agreed. I think your points are valid. I just wanted to point out the one point of disagreement. Thanks, BD07.
Earl29 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 12:00 PM
The rights the Declaration notes as being endowed by our Creator belong also to those who do not believe in a Creator. We do not ask people if they believe in God before we protect their right to keep and bear arms.
Col Bat Guano Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 12:13 PM
True enough. But rights granted by God are the only ones that endure.

Those who scoff at conservatives who publicly acknowledge that tyrannical government is at least capable of infringing on American civil liberties need to look no further than what’s happening across the pond. Sadly, Great Britain’s political leaders have reportedly lost their spines, agreeing to stringent “new press regulations” without so much as a fight. These rules and guidelines will effectively end freedom of the press in the United Kingdom as we know it. Charles C.W. Cooke reports:

[L]ondon, once the undisputed center of the free world, has fallen to the dull charms of cheap censorship. For...