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15 Things That Are Not Okay For Liberals To Do

GodsLaws Wrote: Feb 16, 2013 3:29 PM
Conservatives employ the legal system to liberate individuals and encourage innovation and economic mobility. Leftists employ the legal system to enslave individuals and discourage self-sufficiency and local solutions to local challenges.
David3036 Wrote: Feb 16, 2013 4:16 PM
Still another poloarized comparison that doesn't hold water. Conservatives have used the legal system to restrict freedom as often as they've used it to liberate. Why did conservatives opt to spend millions of taxpayer dollars to defend the Defense of Marriage Act? It certainly is not to "liberate" anyone. Why do they push for prayer in schools or teaching of "intelligent design" as science? Does teaching religious doctrine do anything to "liberate" young minds?
AJTheThird Wrote: Feb 16, 2013 10:15 PM
Why don't you explain how those things aren't liberating
inkling_revival Wrote: Feb 16, 2013 11:42 PM
David, I know I'm wasting my time, but let's do a thought experiment.

A: "You are not permitted to teach anything in schools with which we substantially disagree. We think X is false, therefore you cannot teach it."

B: "Each community may teach in their schools whatever that community would like, including (if they choose) 'X.'"

How can position A be called "liberating"?

How can position B be called "restrictive?"

Now -- stick "Intelligent Design" into the statements in place of X. What changes?

GL's "polarized comparison" was precisely correct. Your objection is incorrect.
justme16 Wrote: Feb 17, 2013 7:26 AM
First thing ANYONE must do if they are going to enter into a debate or discourse of any kind is to DEFINE what they mean when they toss around accusations, and then their personal motivation and agendas for same. For example, when you use the term "FREEDOM" what exactly do YOU mean. Emerson wrote "Freedom without restraint is ANARCHY". Ergo when rabid leftists whine about conservative values and restraint they are typically PROTECTING the "rights of other" i.e. in the abortion conflicts. They are protecting the rights of the unborn child from the butchery of the mother. While on the other hand the lobby for abortion wants unrestricted ability to kill in the name of personal convenience without concern for what their actions harm.

Many liberals have come to believe the rules of morality, decency, and good behavior don't apply to them. You see, since they're liberal they think that no matter how racist, sexist, violent, dehumanizing, evil or disgusting their behavior may be, they're still good people just by virtue of the fact that they're liberals. Of course, not every progressive feels that way, but almost no one on the Left who disagrees has the courage to speak out against the horrific behavior of his fellow liberals. That's understandable if you think about it. Just as a member of the KKK would fear...