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Grossly Negligent: NYPD Sued for Shooting Innocent Bystanders

Glock29 Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 1:19 PM
They were not able to hit their intended target because the nanny state made the replace the standard 5 pound triggers with 12 pound triggers in their Glocks. Do the math! Remember according to the experts under stress you will not feel the trigger or its weight! What do the numbers say about trigger pull weights and hit ratios in actual gunfights? -New York City Police Department (N.Y.P.D.) Glocks with 12 lb. triggers 15% hit ratio* (heavy trigger pull poor performance). -Los Angeles County Sheriff Department (L.A.C.S.D.) Double/Single Action trigger, first shot double action approx. 12 lb. subsequent single action shots approx 5 lb. trigger pull weight 51% hit ratio* (transition to a lighter pull creates more hits).
Bigdogoffthechain11 Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 1:28 PM
Things happen in a firefight.

Very little of what happens has anything to do with trigger pull poundage or anything other than frightened human beings are shooting at one another while jumping around.

Cut the check.
iprazhm Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 2:59 PM
You claim to know all sorts of facts but I don't see any references given. Opinions are like a certain body part, everybody has one.
Bigdogoffthechain11 Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 3:44 PM
I'm giving my opinion, based upon my memory of this incident, and my memory of having been shot at by those meaning to kill me. I don't need "references" for that. So have a nice day being a fracking jerk.
Bigdogoffthechain11 Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 3:46 PM
Nor did I claim to know any "facts"-you made that up in your own head for your own ego as I have proven your theories wrong with just a little common sense. Jerk.
Bigdogoffthechain11 Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 1:27 PM
Things happen in a firefight.

Very little of what happens has anything to do with trigger pull poundage or anything other than frightened human beings are shooting at one another while jumping around.

Cut the check.
YassirSanchez Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 2:29 PM
I respectfully disagree. Any weapon I purchase with a 12# pull better be dicounted because it has a rest stop at a reliable Smithy before it goes home with me.
Bigdogoffthechain11 Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 2:42 PM
that's good for you. I seriously doubt you will be engaged in a firefight while doing so.
YassirSanchez Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 2:56 PM
My mistake.

I was taking all of your other comments seriously until I realized you were the firearms genius who thinks that "trigger pound pullage" is not a very important thing.

My mistake, you obviously know nothing of firearms therefore your opinion is irrelevant.
YassirSanchez Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 2:58 PM
No worries mate, if that to occur my defense needs would not be predicated upon having a firearm that required enough pull to render it useless.
Bigdogoffthechain11 Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 3:43 PM
It's important to you. I have never found the need to adjust the factory settings on my combat pistols or rifles, military or civilian. Your arrogance is pretty offensive. Right about the time you're tinkering with the trigger pull on your boutique revolver, some old-fashioned iron-sighter like me will ventilate your thorax with well-placed fire. I never claimed to be a genius, or to have a bigger roger than you. But clearly, you are the biggest a$$ in the crowd. Thanks for playing.
Bigdogoffthechain11 Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 3:45 PM
good for you. Don't blow your foot or your roger off in the process.

As the gun control debate rages on with New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg leading the way, a woman in North Carolina is suing the New York City Police Department after they shot her and nine other people two months ago while trying to take out a single person near the Empire State Building.

A North Carolina college student hit by police gunfire during a shooting outside the Empire State Building argued in a lawsuit Tuesday that the police department and the officers involved need better training to deal with such confrontations in the future.