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America Nears El Tipping Pointo

get real4 Wrote: Dec 06, 2012 9:17 AM
The problem really isn't with the immigration act of 1965. The problem is with the welfare state. When poor immigrants came at the turn of the 20th century, there was no welfare state so they had to work. Working to provide for oneself has a strong tendency to make one conservative. When new poor immigrants come, they are presented a welfare state that promises to give them everything. They no longer have to work and still live better than where they came from. This has the tendency to make one liberal. We have crossed the tipping point. Had Romney won, perhaps we could have addressed the welfare state. I don't think it is possible anymore as the takers apparently outnumber the makers.
wtmoore1 Wrote: Dec 06, 2012 9:40 AM
Get real,

Republican claims are undermined by the fact that the right simply labels anyone who doesn't agree with them as "takers." There are many who work and pay taxes who vote Democratic, and believe in social programming and the value of providing help to those in our community who are the most vulnerable. It doesn't take someone wanting to take what you've earned for us to support social programming.
get real4 Wrote: Dec 06, 2012 10:30 AM
1. I don't refer to takers as only those on welfare. That includes government workers, and private sector worker's whose job depends on funding from the government. The majority of these workers voted for Obama out of a fear of reduced spending and how that would affect their job. It's understandable, but it doesn't mean that they are not takers just like those on welfare. A taker to me is anyone who votes for a politician because of that politician's promise to give them some economic benefit.

get real4 Wrote: Dec 06, 2012 10:32 AM
2. Helping the most vulnerable is a laudable goal. However, that is not what our welfare state is designed to do. It provides much more than what is necessary and underprovides to others. I personally know of individuals who have not work for years, if ever, and still have a flat screen TV bigger than my TV; kids who have portable game consoles, cell phones, etc. They live in a 3 bedroom apartment so everyone has their own room. That is insane when the father could be working, but claims disability because he is overweight.

I apologize to America's young people, whose dashed dreams and dim employment prospects I had laughed at, believing these to be a direct result of their voting for Obama.

On closer examination, it turns out that young voters, aged 18-29, overwhelmingly supported Romney. But only the white ones.

According to Pew Research, 54 percent of white voters under 30 voted for Romney and only 41 percent for Obama. That's the same percentage Reagan got from the entire white population in 1980. Even the Lena Dunham demographic -- white women under 30 -- slightly favored Romney.

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