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Dan Savage Savages the Bible, Christianity, and the Pope (Part II)

George121 Wrote: May 04, 2012 6:14 PM
Classic hypocrisy of the far left, " Lie to the people for their own good". When there is intelligent, mature, reasonable resistance, scream "Racist, Radical, Intolerant, Ignorant, Stupid, out-of-touch, etc". When the liberals have nothing intelligent or honest to say ( which is quite often) they resort to their standard raving, ranting & lying. They'd like to either burn the Holy Bible or at least rewrite it in their own image. As for slavery..it was written in the Old Testament..how to gently treat your slave. Slavery had been a fact of life through all of recorded history. Remember, Slave came from the word Slav... The Romans thought the Slavics were inferior because of their blonde hair & light skin.. odd isn't it?
nawlins72 Wrote: May 04, 2012 6:27 PM
"As for slavery..it was written in the Old Testament..how to gently treat your slave."

Yes, they could be beaten so long as no permanent harm occured. So gentle.

"Slavery had been a fact of life through all of recorded history."

So has murder. You wish to argue why it's OK too?
Rich D. Wrote: May 04, 2012 6:56 PM
It is apparent that you do not understand continuing revelation. It is also apparent that you do not understand that there are other sources of revelation.

It IS apparent, however, that you enjoy non sequiturs.
Mark in CA Wrote: May 04, 2012 7:19 PM
It is a mistake to think that just because God provides a law regulating human behavior that He condones said behavior. Consider the laws for divorce as a corollary. Deuteronomy 24:1 allows for divorce. Yet Malachi 2:16 states that God hates divorce. When asked about divorce in Matthew 19:8, Jesus replied: “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.”
nawlins72 Wrote: May 04, 2012 9:02 PM
"It IS apparent, however, that you enjoy non sequiturs."

Feel free to point out those non-sequiturs.
nawlins72 Wrote: May 04, 2012 9:06 PM
"It is a mistake to think that just because God provides a law regulating human behavior that He condones said behavior. "

So God believes that being gay is worse than slavery? He flat out says its an abomination, but he cant make this claim for slavery ?
Mark in CA Wrote: May 04, 2012 9:45 PM
As a matter of fact, nawlins, the slavery addressed in the Old Testament is just an external form of slavery that stems from the hardness of mens hearts. Worse than that are those who are slaves to sin. Those who have given themselves over to gay sex are such slaves. "Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin." John 8:34.

Now Romans 6:18 informs believers in Christ: "You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness."

And this leads to a unity described in Galatians 3:28 where "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

The truth of the matter is
nawlins72 Wrote: May 04, 2012 10:47 PM
"As a matter of fact, nawlins, the slavery addressed in the Old Testament is just an external form of slavery that stems from the hardness of mens hearts. Worse than that are those who are slaves to sin."

I'm sorry, Mark, but these arguments truly flabbergast me. Homosexuals harm no one by their attraction to the same sex, yet this is an abomination. Slavery: the owning of humans as property, which caused untold deaths and suffering is not so bad. Can't spare a few lines saying "owning slaves is an abomination"? Nope.
Rich D. Wrote: May 04, 2012 10:49 PM
Would it matter? The last two lines of your 6:27 post.
Rich D. Wrote: May 04, 2012 10:51 PM
Sure, no harm from the attraction, but the acts...
nawlins72 Wrote: May 04, 2012 10:57 PM
"Sure, no harm from the attraction, but the acts..."

So anything that causes harm is an abomination? Smoking? Poor eating? Not exercising? Riding a bike without a helmet?
Courage and freedom Wrote: May 05, 2012 7:55 AM
Homosexuality harms those guilty of the acts and those that uphold the acts and those that have their minds and moral values warped by the agenda of homosexuals. Homosexuality is a cancer, like all sin, that eats away at the moral fabric of all that is good and holy in the sight of God. Homosexuality corrupts the minds of children and adults alike and leads them down a path of self loathing and promotes and advances the lack of shame and self respect. To try and promote your view that homosexuality does no harm is akin to saying that pedophiles are only trying to show love with their heinous crimes against children.
nawlins72 Wrote: May 05, 2012 8:44 PM
More unsupported rhetoric. Homosexuality is almost pure evil. How? No reasoning. Why? Just cause. And yet the faithful here can't condemn a truly immoral act like slavery because their God condoned the practice.

If the Bible is “a radically pro-slavery document” (Dan Savage), how is it that Christians who successfully fought for the abolition of slavery in the 18th and 19th centuries based their opposition to slavery on that very same Bible? The answer is simple: The Bible is actually not “a radically pro-slavery document.”

According to Savage (following atheist Sam Harris), “the Bible got the easiest moral question that humanity has ever faced wrong. Slavery! What’re the odds that the Bible got something as complicated as human sexuality wrong? 100% percent.”

To be candid, it’s easy to see where Savage and Harris are...

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