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Abortion and Rape

Geoff34 Wrote: Aug 23, 2012 1:47 PM
Put yourself in the position of the rape victim for a minute here: She is violently attacked, forced to let some abusive scum use her body for his own enjoyment. Then she is forced to undergo 9 months of very uncomfortable, life-changing, physical changes (her lungs and heart turn sideways and get pushed up into her thorax, etc.) Every AM for several weeks she gets up, throws up, and has to remember it all over again, knowing she is still being (ab)used by this scum who raped her. Then she has to bear his child, go through the pain and trauma of, not only a birth, but the birth of a child she was forced against her will to carry and bear, all because ONE fertile cell has more rights than she does. Is that just? What about HER rights
Seawolf Wrote: Aug 23, 2012 4:45 PM
If she goes to the hospital, none of that occurs, it takes awhile for ovum and sperm to unite and treated they never meet end of problem...then hang the pervert or is that too drastic an approach for liberals senstitivities? He might have had a bad childhood...well, guess what, the child that was aborted for convenience never got to HAVE a childhood did they?
Anominus Wrote: Aug 23, 2012 2:26 PM
So you would argue that the baby, which also had no choice in the manner of its conception, deserves to be killed, often by being cut to pieces, dissolved in solution, or simply sucked out and thrown in the trash? Somehow that should bring solace to the victimized girl?

Name one other crime where the victim is legally permitted to harm or kill another innocent person in order to alleviate their own suffering.
FlamingLiberalMultiCulturalist Wrote: Aug 23, 2012 2:44 PM
Again, we are back to the "Person" thing. I wont speak for Doug5049, but I do not believe the embryo is a Person at that point, so I see no innocent Person being killed.
Doug5049 Wrote: Aug 23, 2012 2:48 PM
Yet you acknowledge that it does, in fact, become a person as some point between conception and birth, but you remain unable to say at what point it happens. The answer to that question is central to all of this.
Anominus Wrote: Aug 23, 2012 2:59 PM
At the point of conception, a unique, new human being is formed. The DNA proves that it is human, and according to the biological definition of life, it is certainly alive. So the question has been answered. Liberals can do nothing but rely on semantics and reject any scientific proof which conflicts with their personal beliefs.

So, FLMC, either all living humans are persons, or are you trying to justify another "2/3rds person" exemption you liberals have always favored?
Doug5049 Wrote: Aug 23, 2012 1:52 PM
What you describe happened to Pam Stenzel's mother when she was a teenager. She bravely carried the pregnancy to term, and gave birth to Pam, and put her up for adoption. Pam tells her teenage audiences: "I did not deserve the death penalty for a crime committed by my biological father." Would you look her in the eye and tell her that she's wrong?
John5840 Wrote: Aug 23, 2012 1:56 PM
I would tel lher that her mom shoudlnt[ be trying to force her choice on other people.
Doug5049 Wrote: Aug 23, 2012 1:59 PM
That wasn't even close to being an answer to my question.
FlamingLiberalMultiCulturalist Wrote: Aug 23, 2012 2:42 PM
"Would you look her in the eye and tell her that she's wrong?"

I would never say that she was wrong, I would say the choice was hers to make and if she chose to terminate the pregnancy I would say exactly the same thing, and again would never say she was wrong to do so.

But anyone who would force her to bear the child to term against her will is as much a Rapist as the Rapist who impregnated her.
Doug5049 Wrote: Aug 23, 2012 2:44 PM
The choice was most certainly NOT hers to make. She was the fetus.
justsomeguy151 Wrote: Aug 23, 2012 3:49 PM
You mean like Godless liberals like you are trying to do w/ pushing the Gay Agenda? HYPOCRITE.

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