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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

pcolgrove Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 9:33 AM
A good leader is not neccessarily a good person.
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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

pcolgrove Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 9:33 AM
Obama is NOT a great man - or will never be considered a great leader in the volumes of history. But he is an excellent leader in that he can get the masses to support his agenda, even though most feel it is a disaster! That is all I am saying. People who can get other people to follow them and blindly follow policies that are disasterous are good leaders. Just like the first Lemming that jumps off the cliff. A really great leader in the future will be able to articulate the disaster ahead of us and be alble to lead us out of that path to our cliff with clear solutions. What I am saying is that leader has to be a conservative and not a RINO like the Bush's were or like Romney or McCain would have been.
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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

pcolgrove Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 8:45 AM
I put FDR at the bottom of my list for exaclty what you said. He was a war monger that put our nation into deep debt. But even in real dollar terms, Reagan, Bush, Bush and especially Obama far out shadowed FDR's debt climb. And it was Truman who slashed the federal budget to get it back to balanced levels - the last democrat to have done that (Clinton was forced to cut spending by the last conservative congress.)
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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

pcolgrove Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 8:29 AM
"Good God Man... Bush may have been 'some' dumb... but not 'Plum' dumb and reckless as the current narcissist spoiled man-child in charge!" Thats all i am saying. We have had far far better presidents. I would much rather have Nixon over Bush any day! There where also a few worse presidents than Bush as well - Obama being one of them. My biggest problem with Bush is that he was an enabler. He could not say no. I think he was sincere, but just a bad leader. A nice guy? Perhaps. But a bad leader. Obama on the other hand is planning and executing the destruction of this country. Obama is an excellent leader in his cause, and he is succeeding. Remeber when Rush Limbaugh said, he hoped Obama failed. Well Obama has not failed so far
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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

pcolgrove Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 8:29 AM
"Good God Man... Bush may have been 'some' dumb... but not 'Plum' dumb and reckless as the current narcissist spoiled man-child in charge!" Thats all i am saying. We have had far far better presidents. I would much rather have Nixon over Bush any day! There where also a few worse presidents than Bush as well - Obama being one of them. My biggest problem with Bush is that he was an enabler. He could not say no. I think he was sincere, but just a bad leader. A nice guy? Perhaps. But a bad leader. Obama on the other hand is planning and executing the destruction of this country. Obama is an excellent leader in his cause, and he is succeeding. Remeber when Rush Limbaugh said, he hoped Obama failed. Well Obama has not failed so far
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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

pcolgrove Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 7:31 AM
I agree to a very faint level with you - in scale only. But before Obama entered the White House, Bush was the biggesrt spender and the biggest debt builder. He was the president that grew government the most. Obama just makes Bush look better as you said in your post. But Bush was an overall bad leader. But that being said, I woudl rather have Bush in there today than Obama. But I would much rather have a Reagan or even his father, who did cut government and ran a much tighter ship!
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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

pcolgrove Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 7:27 AM
Eisenhower was a very good president. His only problem was that he could not stand up to the military industrial complex. He should have shown more strength against that evil rather than be complacent. There are far better plances to put that engineering and intellectual persuits than to killing people. War is a neccessary evil - but to the scale the USA goes, is near insane. Humanaity has lost a tremenous number of lives and economic resources at the depraved hands of our DoD.
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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

pcolgrove Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 7:06 AM
Overall, Bush was bad - with some good scattered around. I say that with the added opinion that Obama will likely be the worse president ever - long into the future. When someone make Carter look good, you know Obama is a VERY bad president. But I agree that Bush hovers around 38. $4.5 trillion in debtand massive increases to federal spending are very epidemic of very poor leadership.
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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

pcolgrove Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 7:03 AM
The adolesent federal workforce in other areas/departments wanted their share of increased federal spending. Instead of cutting back on the sharp increase of defense spending, Bush allowed for increases everywhere. Bush was not a leader, he was an enabler. The debt orginally climbed to dangerous levels because he could not say no. When criminals know they can get away with crimes, they will and the federal workers knew they could get away with a lot under Bush. But all that being said, Obama is the Super-Bush. What Bush did and allowed, Obama does at even higher levels.
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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

pcolgrove Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 7:00 AM
The war continued, but at higher levels - enriching the military industrial complex and the DoD federal workers. The DoD grew in mass as well. From just under 500,000 before Bush got into office to nearly 800,000 when he got out. The biggest winners of the war on terror was the DoD federal workers. In this time, the DoD feds changed from a performance based pay scale that required accountablilty to the federal worker union GS pay scale which is automatic pay increase whether you work or not. Bush allowed for egregious spending. We needed to got o war, and the debt was an appropreate means to jump start that effort. But he never paid for the following years after starting the war. The debt mounted.
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