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Britain Votes For the Beginning of the End

GatoLuchador Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 11:14 AM
I've come to the conclusion a long time ago that the same-sex marriage movement is really a backdoor attack on religious freedom. Now, they will throw your priest in prison; and they will ban or re-write the Bible. Why can't gays establish their own churches and stop treading on everyone else?
David3036 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 12:51 PM
We have religous freedom guaranteed in the Constitution. Every church has the freedom to define marriage and conduct marriage ceremonies in its own way.

The only issue here is whether couples of the same gender will be recognized under the law, and whehter provisionn and benefits in vaiious laws will apply to gay couples. Today they don't, even for gay couples who are married in marriage-equality states, because DOMA precludes them from receiving federal benefits -- no milttary benefits as a miltary spouse, no Social Security survirors' benefitss, no immigration preference or anything that is in the 1,100-plus federal laws that mention marriage.

DOMA needs to be struck down, for the sake of gay couples who are already married.
David3036 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 12:42 PM
The idea that gay marriage is an assault on religious freedom is a trumped-up argument made by the Catholic Church, the National Organization for Marriage and the anti-gay organizations with "family" in their names. NOM even claimed in a mailing piece that the Navy required chaplains to perform same-sex wedding ceremonies and had backed down only when Congressman Todd Akin (of “legitimate rape” infamy) led a move to have the Navy guidelines rescinded.

It was a total fabrication, and no chaplain was ever required to do anything related to same-sex marriages.
David3036 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 12:30 PM
They have. Their church is called the Metropolitan Community Church, with 222 congregations in 37 countries. It welcomes everyone but is predominantly gay and lesbian, and i would guess that homophobes might be less welcome.

Don't try to compare the UK's situation with that of the United States. The British have a state church, the Church of England, so whatever they decide to do about gay marriage will affect the church. In this country it has not, and will not. No church is affected. No church is required to marry divorced people or people of other faiths, and they are not required to marry same-sex couples. That language has been written into every recent gay-marriage law in the U.S., even the Constitution makes that unnecessary.

On February 5, Britain’s House of Commons voted in favor of legalizing gay marriage. The vote is extremely alarming. It could signal the beginning of the end for Western civilization as we know it.

The idea of same-sex marriage is troubling even to some homosexuals, let alone those who hold a biblical conviction that marriage is intended by the Creator to be between a man and a woman.

The vote, which was 400-175, represented a major crack in the Conservative Party. More than half of its 303 members voted against or abstained from the measure. Prime Minister David Cameron may...