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And yet, the GOP screams bloody murder when liberals sue against the death penalty. You can't call yourself prolife unless you oppose the death penalty with the same fervor as you oppose abortion.
The Unions. The people who brought you the weekend. Shedlock would take teachers and other workers back to sweatshops. We need a balance between union and management, but the decline in the union movement is bad for all workers.
Wrong. Marriage is about establishing kinship and is an economic trade. Women traditionally were "sold" (and what else is a dowry) from her father, to the father of her groom.
Like everyone on your side, you "conveniently" forgot that the anti-Gay side lost in Arizona in 2006. You have to come back a second time in 2008, with "kinder, gentler homophobia" to pass an amendment. Your unwillingness to accept the voice of voters, and go for "do-overs" is why none of the 31 votes are a done deal. You're going to lose in Maine in November.
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Like Gold, Marriage is the Genuine Article

gary47 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 8:47 PM
... because it—and it alone—represents the most fundamental earthly relationship into which two human beings can enter. .. Unless it was 1 man and multiple women in most of history, or an arranged marriage where a woman was sold to her husband's family, of something as throw-away as Newt's 3 marriages. All of your arguments are equally valid for why same-sex couples should be allowed to make the commitment of marriage for the well being of their family.
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Even the pretense of tolerance is gone

gary47 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 12:54 PM
You would let your perceived perfect be the enemy of the good. There are too many hard to place children in foster care who need adoptive parents.
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Even the pretense of tolerance is gone

gary47 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 10:35 AM
Wrong, from start to finish. Begatting is not a requirement to make a valid marriage (under secular or church law), and a valid marriage is not requirement to begat. Marriage is a contract between two consenting adults, and it is desirable because it creates social stability. These are the reasons same sex couples want to marry, and why secular law will allow this nationally within 20 years, as voters and courts come to understand this.
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Even the pretense of tolerance is gone

gary47 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 10:12 AM
False. Amendments in Michigan and Virginia explicitly ban private contracts which attempt to provide these protections. Courts in other states have voided similar contracts.
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Even the pretense of tolerance is gone

gary47 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 10:08 AM
Conservatives forced this issue, not Gays. Sears and his ilk pushed bans on Civil Unions / Domestic Partners in 20 of 31 states with anti-Gay marriage amendments. If you really believed what you say, you would be leading the battle to repeal DOMA and enact robust Civil Union laws.
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Even the pretense of tolerance is gone

gary47 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 10:05 AM
The Gay Agenda: http://www.bettybowers.com/homoagenda.html
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Even the pretense of tolerance is gone

gary47 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 10:04 AM
Except TownHall and their contributors actually subscribe to "Hate the Sinner, Hate the Sin"
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