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And what about you side shoving your intolerance down. Voters throats? You and your side are the intolerant ones. Why else did you outlaw domestic partners and civil unions in 20 of the 31 states whwre you pushed your amendments? THE purpose of these amendments were driven pure and simple on animus. And the courts have recognuzed this overturning every amendment that was challenged.
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Marriage Best Left to Churches

gary47 Wrote: Dec 16, 2012 12:23 AM
Poppycock. The right wing hates Gay Americans, or you wouldn't have banned Civil Unions / Domestic Partners in 21 states, and fought against them tooth and nail in the states that have them. Your intolerance forced the debate to become Marriage Equality for same sex couples and nothing else because you have shown that you have no respect or tolerance for Gay and Lesbian Americans.
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Marriage Best Left to Churches

gary47 Wrote: Dec 16, 2012 12:19 AM
This essay is one of the more bizarre stories from the anti-Gay industry. Cushman does not understand the separation of Church and state if she thinks Civil Marriage for same-sex couples poses any risk for her Church. Her church is in no more danger than from an atheist heterosexual couple. Further, civil unions are not a global concept, and she would create horrendous problems for every couple that leaves the US on business or vacation, or has any foreign investments.
You ask: From rights of survivorship to hospital visitation, there are matters of basic decency which can be settled in law without redefining marriage at its root. This is exactly why legal marriage is necessary, because basic decency has been violated continuously against same sex couples. And letting same-sex couples wed does not redefine marraige at its root. Marriage remains a personal contract between two unrelated persons which establishes kinship. The state is interested in this because marriage stabilizes society, and provides security for the members of the family - the couple, any childen they bear, adopt or bring in from a prior marriage.
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Redefining Marriage Sign of a Lost Society

gary47 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 8:23 PM
Adultery and murder harm others. Marriage of same-sex couple harms no one, and stabilizes society. That is why marriage equality is both good, and inevitable.
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Gay Marriage at the Ballot Box

gary47 Wrote: Nov 23, 2012 3:43 PM
Actually, your side forced the marriage only debate on the Gay community. 20 of the 30 amendments banning marriage equality also ban civil unions. Two of these also ban private contracts. This shows your side is intentionally Gay bashing, with no desire to limit "traditional" marriage to opposite sex couples. If you had support Civil Unions that provided legal equality 10 years ago, you probably would have won the debate.
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Gay Marriage at the Ballot Box

gary47 Wrote: Nov 23, 2012 3:39 PM
Sexual behavior may change, but not instrinsic orientation.
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Gay Marriage at the Ballot Box

gary47 Wrote: Nov 23, 2012 3:38 PM
Like Michael Jackson?
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Gay Marriage at the Ballot Box

gary47 Wrote: Nov 23, 2012 3:37 PM
Jacoby and NOM fail basic logic. They can't explain why marriage should be denied to same-sex couples raising children, but is allowed for elderly (infertile) couples to encourage domestic stability and love. Want to know why? Marriage historically was an economic transaction, where a woman was sold from her father or brother, to the father of the groom, who allowed his son to marry the woman. In more modern times, it has required the implicit consent of the couple, but the structure of the ceremony in most cases ("Who giveth this woman?") is still handing over the woman as property to her husband. None of your arguments make any sense in a legal system that values individuals.
And yet, the GOP screams bloody murder when liberals sue against the death penalty. You can't call yourself prolife unless you oppose the death penalty with the same fervor as you oppose abortion.
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