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Beware the "Grand Bargain"

GAMMA-RAY-BURSTER Wrote: Oct 27, 2012 2:16 PM
THE CORRECT PATH TO TAKE ASSURING SAVINGS FOR RETIREMENT ... for today's workers under age 25 is to eliminate the ability of banks to steal from each of them via a 'mortgage' for 30 of forty working years. This savings ... equal to twice the initial purchase price of any home subjected to a 'mortgage' ... could instead be either saved or invested by workers. Instead... it is stolen by banks via the clever mechanism of mortgaging and then invested on behalf of banks. The charade of 'mortgaging' by banks must be ended. An ever more aging and thus ever more obsolescent home must never 'appreciate' in price but instead should only ever solely 'depreciate' (devalue)... over time.
Jay Wye Wrote: Oct 27, 2012 5:30 PM
it's not "stealing" to pay for the use of something that you borrow. that goes for the use of their money as well as for any other product.
it's actually no different that investing in a company; you expect a return on your investment,there's no reason the lender shouldn't expect a return on their loan. After all,you have THEIR money for a long time,when they could have invested it elsewhere.

You must be a communist or believe in Sharia Law,where such loans are forbidden.
GAMMA-RAY-BURSTER Wrote: Oct 27, 2012 8:23 PM
If homes cost 10% - 20% of their present amount and only ever subsequently then depreciated in value over time, they could be paid for in full with but a few years of savings enabling the remainder that instead is diverted to mortgage-payments tallying hundreds of thousands of dollars over 30 long years... to instead pay for retirement.... is the correct way to think about these assets.

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