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False Alarm: The Libertarian Revolution Has Not Begun

Fuzzy2 Wrote: Apr 20, 2013 11:35 AM
Hey Mr Realistic, is smaller government ever really going to happen? If not, why bother voting for it? Are the law-makers all going to legislate Judeo-Christian principles? No, then why bother voting for them? It's a lot easier when you give up at the start, isn't it. Then you can abdicate all your principles to vote for the evil that falls within your own acceptable level. All with a clean conscience. Knowing you voted for the misery of your children's lives because voting for the principles you pretend to value doesn't seem to work. Iif you and the majority of republicans would lower themselves to vote for a presidential candidate that held those values to heart, Ron Paul would be redecorating the Oval office.
meerbock Wrote: Apr 20, 2013 12:00 PM
Fuzzy2: As well may be, HOWEVER, Ron Paul was perceived by the mass of American voters as a nutjob. His followers were teens and college kids who went for the legalization of drugs and his strict isolationism. They deliberately disrupted and destroyed the nominating process in state after state while rudely shouting down more reasonable voices.

If you honestly think that most normal Americans would go for that platform, you are sadly deluded. I'm conservative, and lean Libertarian simply because I've always had a problem with do-gooders telling me how I ought to live, but I'm certainly realistic enough to vote for the people who might be able to change things. To do that we start at the precinct level and run to change the party, first.
Fuzzy2 Wrote: Apr 20, 2013 12:35 PM
That's an extremely uninformed take on Ron Paul's positions. Something I think contributed heavily to Ron Paul;s downfall.

He wasn't for legalization of drugs and he wasn't in favor of isolationism.

I blame republicans for this because they were the ones spreading these lies.

They are just incapable of understanding the simplest things unless the federal government explains it to them.

dbaker909 Wrote: Apr 20, 2013 5:34 PM
Ron Paul was too much of a Milk Toast. We need a Reagan-type character to take on the whiners.
Dean197 Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 11:41 AM
The GOP did more to undermine Ron Paul than the Democrats. They did everything they could to silence him, including changing the rules of their convention.
Dean197 Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 11:42 AM
Agreed, not presidential, but worth hearing.

I just saw a headline that made me think that libertarian fantasies somehow had turned into reality.

As you can see, 24 IRS employees were just arrested for stealing. But what about the other 105,976 bureaucrats at the Internal Revenue Service who seize our money under the implied threat of violence?

Shouldn’t they be arrested for stealing from us as well?

IRS Employees arrested

But then my bubble burst. The story has nothing to do with the injustice of the internal revenue code and the shakedown...