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ABC News: Hey, This Doctor Shortage Could "Crash" Obamacare

funnything2012 Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 1:28 PM
The problem is the existence of health insurance! Whenever the end-user of a good or service doesn't pay the full cost of that good or service the price inflation is greatly exacerbated. Without the insurance to pay vendors would be forced to charge what people could afford out-of-pocket. Corrective eye surgery is a great example. Insurances doesn't cover it and it's price has fallen dramatically over the last decade, while procedures covered by insurance have had their costs vastly inflated.
MacQ - Texas Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 2:31 PM
That the only sensible thing I've ever seen you post!
(Actually I admit I scroll by most of your posts tho)
Good one.
UltraMan Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 1:34 PM
Has your meds kicked in?

You now sound like a normal conservative.
ReddestNeck Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 1:31 PM
OK... true enough... and???

If the gummit got its small-M mitts off of the health care system and let private concerns offer health care plans, or not, as they saw fit, then it would indeed adjust in the market. Obamacare is a step in an excruciatingly wrong direction.
indy2012 Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 1:31 PM
actually its something I always think about....what if there was no health insurance....just like what if there were no student loans....then the price could not go up......the health industry is not a real free market system, that is one of the reasons (not the only) that prices keep going up.......think about the ER, what is really different about them compared to a normal clinic?? not much, but the prices are not even close.....
ReddestNeck Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 1:38 PM
How about leaving it to private concerns whether or not they want to offer health care plans. They will find a place in the market, or they will be rejected in the market as uneconomical.

Remember, the whole idea of health care plans as we know them (before Obamacare) was a tax-exempt way of providing pay to employees. There are some efforts to support cash-based alternatives to this, with health care savings accounts, but they are hobbled up with cumbersome regulations. Those could be simplified.
indy2012 Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 1:39 PM
red, that is not happening, unfortunately the debate is over....
ReddestNeck Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 1:43 PM
Obamacare will crash into a wall and burn. The GOP was very right to withhold from it.

Just in case the unaffordable price tag and rising costs don't quite do the trick, America's spiraling dearth of doctors will contribute heavily to the collapse of our re-engineered health care system, according to a new study:
 

The United States will require at least 52,000 more family doctors in the year 2025 to keep up with the growing and increasingly older U.S. population, a new study found. The predictions also reflect the passage of the Affordable Care Act -- a change that will expand health insurance coverage to an additional 38 million Americans. "The health care...