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I believe the TEAs are a "substantial minority" only in terms of money raised to fight with, not in numbers of potential voters or in winning principles (the same principles that once made our level playing field capitalistic, small government, Constitutional Republic the greatest & richest nation in the world). We collapse when we abandon those principles & the GOP deserves to collapse for having abandoned them or it can survive as the alternative party to the big government loving D party if the GOP is willing to listen to the TEAs & reform itself (I doubt that will happen).
If millions of truly conservative voters simply left the corrupt GOP and got together for a real 3rd Party alternative (one for small, Constitutional government, a balanced budget & a return of our liberties), the remaining, corrupt Establishment Republicans would find themselves as back benchers whose only viable alternative would be to do the honorable thing: join the other big government loving D party! Then we'd be back to a 2 Party system that offered voters a real choice: big v small government.
1. As IrishMensa notes, voter fraud was committed & anyone associated with that should be punished. 2. If millions of average truly conservative voters (who wants SMALL, Constitutional government, a balanced budget & a return of our liberties) would only donate a small amount of money each to real conservative politicians, we could beat the Establishment in the money raising campaign & win the war against them. I, for one, put my money where my mouth is & that's another reason I'm so disappointed with some of the supposed Tea Party candidates that then break their promises/change their colors & side with the Establishment once elected. Better to elect a 3rd Party, non-R who would not do that once elected.
I keep getting disappointed in the GOP, even supposedly those supported by the Tea Party but who, once elected, become part of the Establishment. I doubt those who want small, Constitutional government with a balanced budget & a return of our Constitutionally guaranteed liberties can ever take control of the Republican Party now run by big government loving, Constitution trashing Republicans who make no real effort to balance the budget or return our liberties. It's probably best the GOP dies off asap & is replaced with a 3rd Party real voter alternative pushing for small, Constitutional government.
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Frank130 Wrote: Jul 14, 2014 9:58 AM
@ Birdman III: Please read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins to understand our "American Empire" achieved primarily via monetary (the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency) & economic means (big corporations & Central Bankers enslave people). Governments are controlled & tribute is collected by primarily non-military means.
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Frank130 Wrote: Jul 14, 2014 9:48 AM
We are making serious mistakes in our unwise adventurism. Wars always lead to unforeseen consequences. We making more enemies, not fewer. The world is less stable overall, not more stable. Trillions of dollars & tens of thousands of deaths in wars around the world is not "a pretty cheap price".
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Frank130 Wrote: Jul 14, 2014 9:40 AM
1. With our forwardly deployed troops we are fighting more wars, not fewer wars & we cannot afford to be the world's policeman. Neither would our Founding Fathers want us to be the world's policeman. 2. Yes, Hitler & Stalin were backed by Western Central Bankers. Please read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" & check out the references & evidence in that book. Sounds incredible, I know, but sadly true! 3. We are making more enemies by trying to impose our will on the world. The world is less stable today after we invaded Iraq than prior. 4. Western Central Bankers have mostly "bought" the Western political leaders. Read some of the articles by Reagan's Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, Paul Craig Roberts ( http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/ ) & Reagan's Director of the OMB, David Stockman ( http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/ ).
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Frank130 Wrote: Jul 14, 2014 9:19 AM
Exactly.
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Frank130 Wrote: Jul 14, 2014 8:28 AM
You are wrong, "anonymous" about, "The same people screaming that the US must NOT be the World's police are the very people screaming that the US MUST be the World's welfare office." I, for one, want to also dismantle our welfare state, I want to end the government red tape that is hindering the development of our energy resources at home & I'm for the Hobby Lobby decision. You have bought into the false L vs R paradigm that the Power Elite want you to buy into. The real clash in paradigms today is that of small, Constitutional government vs big, uncontrolled, Unconstitutional Statism! Don't fall into the Power Elite trap big government R vs the big government L trap. They are both big government that's destroying the USA & Constitution.
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Frank130 Wrote: Jul 14, 2014 8:12 AM
I understand your point of view & we should learn from our past mistakes, but listen to what you just said: "...our military must remain large and forwardly deployed." Why forwardly deployed unless you are empire building? Why permanently large & how large is large enough? It should only be as permanently large as necessary to defend the nation & deter attack. Anything else is a waste of manpower & money. Also, you need to look at history & try to figure out WHY so many wars are happening: who or what is causing them? I do not think it's a coincidence that we basically began our endless recent warfare after the creation of the Federal Reserve & that the European wars prior were probably encouraged by European Central Bankers (who now probably control or own our Federal Reserve). Why do you want to fight wars around the world against enemies that are of no real threat to the USA homeland and which enrich only the bankers & the military/industrial complex? We can have a fine, modern military based at home which would deter attack that would be far more effective & much less costly than all these recent wars we've been engaged in around the world & which are helping to bankrupt us (our "welfare state" is also bankrupting us as is also the interest we pay on our debt based monetary system to the crooks at the Federal Reserve).
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Frank130 Wrote: Jul 14, 2014 7:13 AM
John Ransom has once again shown himself to be a big government loving, Establishment, GOP neocon interested in keeping the USA in the role of our self appointed world's policeman at our expense. He wants to perpetually feed the military/industrial complex President Eisenhower has warned us about. He does not want the USA to mind its own business unless the nation itself is under threat. He wants more endless wars which have proved to be both unaffordable & self defeating since it tends to make us more enemies in the world than we can get rid of... and wars which we often in the end lose! The majority of our Founding Fathers would roundly disagree with what John Ransom wants for the USA.
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