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The GOP's Immigration Mess

HH: "To those who say we don't need more people, I refer them to the pro-life movement which is this week memorializing the loss of 55 million.." *Sigh*, Hewitt doesn't miss a chance to shoot himself & the GOP in the foot in the midst of making more sense about immigration reform than anyone in his Party for the last couple decades. If we can skip past the idea of enslaving 55 million uteri in order to solve our age-demographic woes, maybe we can recognize that immigration reform can and must be an important component of solving the SS/Medicare/Medicaid financial crisis.
Cardinal5671 Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 1:22 PM
"If we can skip past the idea of enslaving 55 million uteri"

Still stuck on this are you?
FlamingLiberalMultiCulturalist Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 2:12 PM
No more than before, but this is not the place to debate Abortion.
FlamingLiberalMultiCulturalist Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 12:40 PM
Many understand that having less than two workers for each retiree means that too little money is coming into SS/Medicare/Medicaid, but few seem to understand the obvious corollary that it would be a disaster if the amount of work that needs to be done, the amount of jobs that need to be filled, were to shrink to fit the smaller population of workers. That means that our economy would massively, catastrophically contract.

Immigration is how we can smooth out the Baby-Boomer demographic bulge in retirees.
Don't Tread On Me3 Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 1:54 PM
Few immigrants are really going to pay anything to speak of into the failed bogus super-entitlement "trust funds" (proceeds of which which will just get $pent anyway, not invested or saved.) Most are here for the freebies. Furthermore, they themselves will become recipients in their turn. No payoff, just perpetuation of a disastrously bad "social insurance" paradigm that needs to be reformed rather than fed.
FlamingLiberalMultiCulturalist Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 2:11 PM
"Few immigrants are really going to pay anything to speak of into the failed bogus super-entitlement "trust funds""

The fact is that payments into the SS fund by illegal immigrants (made to fake or stolen SS#'s) are estimated to have pushed back the funds-run-dry date for SS by a good decade. And this is while they are illegal. As guestworkers they'd likely pay in yet more, and their benefits could be defined as lower than those of citizens.

On Saturday I will be debating Mark Kirkorian on immigration policy before the National Review Institute.

I am a "wet," on the topic. Have been since I opposed California's proposition 187 in 1994.

Mark, the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, is a "dry."

Here's the interesting thing about out "debate," to be moderated by National Review's Jim Geraghty: Even if one or the other of us succeeds in persuading everyone in the room of our point of view, it doesn't matter. Not a lick. The GOP is branded as an anti-immigrant party, especially with voters under 30, the...