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Immoral Beyond Redemption

You just do not want to see the connection that is there. If I pay insurance premiums for two months and then total my car, I'll get more back than what I paid in. Am I living on the 'insurance company dole'?
Corbett_ Wrote: Jun 06, 2012 2:56 PM
Flaming:

The insurance company voluntarily took your bet. That's all insurance is -- gambling. If the insurance company loses its best, it cannot go out and collect "premiums" by force.
Stuart95 Wrote: Jun 06, 2012 2:49 PM
Car insurance is a commercial service that pays damages for certain discrete, defined events, and they must remain actuarily solvent or go out of business (or to jail).

If car insurance were like SS, you would pay premiums until you were 65, and then the car insurance company would cover your cars, free, for the rest of your life. And they would promise to do that KNOWING that if they continue that service without reform, they will not have enough money to pay you what they promised, should you wreck your car.
dahni Wrote: Jun 06, 2012 1:40 PM
It's called 'insurance', not an entitlement. You risk the insurance premium as protection against a greater loss. If you don't wreck your car again, but I wreck mine, your premium pays for the cost to repair my car. Risk management; voluntary. Of course you only seem to understand wrecking your own car and getting paid for so doing....
PMcQB Wrote: Jun 06, 2012 1:18 PM
Nope. Agree with you there. There are different types of insurance. Car insurance is "risk sharing" not an "investment", there is no expressed guarantee that you should get back what you put in. Term life insurance is risk sharing, the only way to cash in is if you die. Whole life is an investment, combining term life with a savings investment (usually a rip-off).

SS was originated as an "insurance" (a risk sharing safety net, for those who fell on hard times) but then morphed into an "investment" in order for government to continue to sell it to the taxpayer.
Libertius 3 Wrote: Jun 06, 2012 1:09 PM
You voluntarily bought a car and then voluntarily paid up front to insure it, thereby choosing of your own free will to join a certain pool - a limited segment - of other individuals (also of their own free wills) to share your risk. Your loss is paid once (not once each month, ad infinitum) and you are restored to the financial position in which you were before you sustained your loss.

Now I am sure you can see the faults within your analogy.
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