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Be a Patriot: Expand Your Carbon Footprint Today

I find "analyses" like Ransom's to be particularly annoying because they are so subjectively applied, and all the while the appliers congratulate themselves on their supposed "objectivity". Perhaps Mr. Ransom, with all the facts, figures and analytical resources at his disposal, can calculate for us the total costs to taxpayers incurred in subsidizing the automobile over the last 100-odd years, including (but not limited to): (1) Construction and maintenance of local, state, and interstate highway systems. (2) Subsidies to lower the price of Gasoline. (3) State Depts of Motor Vehicles. It seems a little disingenuous to notice and complain about such Govt Social Engineering only when it's applied to alternatives to oil.
oldguy52 Wrote: Aug 06, 2012 12:52 PM
Here's a plan. Lets dig up the road they use to bring YOU groceries. Lets see how long you can keep up your foolishness when you've nothing to eat.

I know you'll be so pleased to be the first to start conserving and set an example for the rest of us.
FlamingLiberalMultiCulturalist Wrote: Aug 06, 2012 1:23 PM
If you could recover all the money used to build all that automotive infrastructure, and undo all the suburban sprawl encouraged by that subsidy, and divert all those savings into a public transport distribution system, then I'd say sure, go for it.

And while you're at it you can pay off the national debt with the savings.

rreid Wrote: Aug 06, 2012 12:02 PM
Hasn't cost much out of general funds because there has always been a tax for this purpose, at the gas pump and a hefty tax on semis Because the pols have used that tax for other things, like they do with all directed taxes sooner or later, doesn't change the fact that that the tax is collected (and its a huge amount) and tax monies are spent on those things you mentioned. the disingenuousness is committed by the pols who are spending much of this money on other things
Moonbat Exterminator Wrote: Aug 06, 2012 11:48 AM
1. Paid for every time you fill the tank. Oil co makes 10 cents a gallon in profit (+/-). State and Fed gas tax runs from 35 - 50 cents a gallon.
2. Largely illusory, but any that do exist come out of the income tax withheld from your paycheck.
3. Self supporting via fees and fines.

It seems didingenuous to talk about things about which you lack understanding such as economics or gubmint finance.
FlamingLiberalMultiCulturalist Wrote: Aug 06, 2012 12:16 PM
" Paid for every time you fill the tank. Oil co makes 10 cents..."
Do you (and rreid below) seriously claim tat all these costs are covered by taxes on Gasoline?!?!? No other public revenues are used? So, all the highway tolls are just gravy? And here in PA we speak of privatizing the PA Turnpike just because it makes so much money we want to give it to private industry out of altruism?
Ron4594 Wrote: Aug 06, 2012 12:44 PM
1. 40% of the cost of gasoline is taxes, not including the pump taxes.

2. All taxes are paid by private sector workers; none by government employees.
Moonbat Exterminator Wrote: Aug 06, 2012 2:33 PM
They have to make up for the gas tax funds aka highway trust fund that gets spent on boonoggles like high speed rail and other mass transit subsidies.
Rodney47 Wrote: Aug 06, 2012 11:43 AM
If you pour your used motor oil along your fence, it will help keep the weeds down. Food for thought.


I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every state, county, and city and every average American in our energy battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your homes and your lives at a cost you can afford. I ask Congress to give me authority for mandatory conservation and for standby gasoline rationing. To further conserve energy, I'm proposing tonight an extra ten billion dollars over the next decade to strengthen our public transportation systems. And I'm asking you for your good and for your nation's security to take no unnecessary trips, to use carpools or public...