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That is just delusionally funny! :) Liberals 'give' their ideology only. They see the 'good' government taking taxes and giving it to the 'needy' as their giving. That exempts them for giving individually (in their minds). Conservatives, whether wealthy, middle class or even poor, give their own personal time and treasure directly to those in need more abundantly. They do not rely on the middle man (government) to do it for them. They don't like the messiness of helping others. That way they can simply sneer and feel better than others without having to actually do the work or directly sacrifice. They 'sacifice' other people's time and money and feel good about themselves. There are exceptions, but that is the fundament6al difference.
Some thought, but ruined by a misunderstanding that created this mess. You forgot the 9/11/2001 attacks and the need to protect America. There WERE WMD found in Iraq. Iraq provided a magnet to draw terrorists with the desire and financial support to rid the region of the 'great Satan.' The terrorist groups spent their capital (manpower and funds) sending people to (and dying in) Iraq. They expended so much effort there there was much less concentration on attacking American interests elsewhere. That part worked. We got them to spend their capital and we eliminated their most fanatical suicide terrorists by drawing them to Iraq, where we owned the sky, the ground and the night.
I am not a fan of COIN. She is correct that it cost unnecessary deaths and eventually failed to produce the results promised. But I do respect General Patreaus. This war got tangled up in too much thinking and being too clever. Just the basics would have worked much better. Go in, kill the bad guys and break their stuff until they can't adequately continue then get out and monitor and repeat as necessary.
Second guessing after the fact sure is easy. I didn’t agree with some of the GWB policies, but going into Iraq I agreed with. The trouble was that the American public forgot the 9/11/01 attacks by that time. I did NOT forget. Every terrorist that died in Iraq never made it to our shores. Iraq was the magnet for the terrorists of all stripes. I call it the ‘honey theory’ and our troops crushed them in Iraq. That was a good thing for America’s security.
Second guessing after the fact sure is easy. I didn’t agree with some of the GWB policies, but going into Iraq I agreed with. The trouble was that the American public to forgot the 9/11/01 attacks by that time. I did NOT forget. Every terrorist that died in Iraq never made it to our shores. Iraq was the magnet for the terrorists of all stripes. I call it the ‘honey theory’ and our troops crushed them in Iraq. That was a good thing for America’s security.
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G.W. was MIA

Fire_Ready Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 9:25 AM
I don't believe George W remained silent because he refused to get involved. I think he was asked to do so by the establishment Republicans that believed it would be too risky. Better for the Republicans to join in with the bashing to remove that advantage from the Democrats. W took one for the 'team' again. Every time W came out swinging at the Democrats and the liberal media, his approval jumped. At the end of his term they requested he remain silent to help McCain. Dumb move.
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G.W. was MIA

Fire_Ready Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 7:59 AM
The elite Republican establishment types threw W under the bus believing distancing McCain would win by default by bashing Bush. Same philosophy applied this time. The establishment Republicans blew it both times. George W won twice, establishment Republicans lost twice by scapegoating him. Maybe they need to realize that it wasn't a good idea the first time. What was the definition of insanity? The Republicans should never have abandoned Bush. The elite Republican establishment 'king makers' are rigidly moderate and afraid to defend conservative values because they believe moderation is the Holy Grail to winning elections. They have been proven wrong. They are as rigidly blind as the liberal mainstream media. Bland loses.
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True Colors of Islamists

Fire_Ready Wrote: Sep 12, 2012 2:39 PM
Presidential order: no shots to be fired, not even blank ammo. Our Marines could have successfully defended the US Embassy in Tehran with noise makers (blank ammo)! But fear of an international incident creates a huge international incident. Our dealings in that part of the world should be from a position of strength.
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True Colors of Islamists

Fire_Ready Wrote: Sep 12, 2012 2:34 PM
Our leaders believe that if you treat everyone as 'good Christian Americans', they will respond as good Christian Americans. The problem is that they are not Christian or Americans. In that part of the world, weakness is to be exploited brutally. What we see as generosity, they see as weakness. They do not respect weakness, but they do respect strength. I was at the US Embassy in Tehran in 1979 taking out all non essential personnel. Political correctness and a fear of making a bad decision led to a disaster.
When clergy take their vows, they make a pact with God to be His Shepherd of their assigned flock. They say The Lord's Prayer at all services. But the bulk of them have failed to comprehend their calling. They all need to stop dead in their tracks and listen to The Lord's Prayer. 'Lead us NOT into temptation, But deliver us from evil.' How will God perform this? This is in their prime directive! It is the clergy's vow to shepherd in Jesus' name as God intended. How ancient is sexual temptation? And our 'shepherds' are EMBRACING the temptation instead of delivering their flock from the evil that is in the details? And then they have the nerve to defrock those that have taken their vows to heart. As we hear often, 'Lord, have mercy.'
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Lessons Not Learned From Vietnam

Fire_Ready Wrote: May 01, 2012 5:20 AM
North Vietnam surrendered at the Paris Peace Talks. The Democrat Congress rejected the agreement because there was a Republican president. A Democrat president (Kennedy) started the Vietnam War. A Democrat president (Johnson) escalated the Vietnam War. A Republican president (Nixon) won it and ended it. The Democrats couldn't accept this politically. They successfully undermined the war that they started and escalated for political purposes. Bush 41 won the War in Iraq, but blundered the aftermath. The surge then worked and we took control in Iraq. Under Obama we retreated and compromised our situation in Iraq to concentrate on Obama's 'Good War' in Afghanistan. Another bad choice by Democrats based solely on political expediency.
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